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Celerity

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17. we may soon have a border dispute crisis, as the 3 main Scandinavian nations (us, Norway, Denmark)
Sun May 17, 2020, 03:08 PM
May 2020

plus Germany are talking about re-opening the borders with each other plus Germany, put multiple parties (on both the left and the right) in Denmark want to open with the other 2, but still block Swedes from entering.


Danish article, Google translated (as I am too lazy to do it all myself, and my Danish is for shit, lolol)


Several parties will open the borders to Germans and Norwegians - but preferably not Swedes

According to several parties, Norwegian and German tourists should be allowed to enter Denmark.

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/flere-partier-vil-aabne-graenserne-tyskere-og-nordmaend-men-helst-ikke-svenskere



The Danish summer country is ready to welcome tourists here shortly before the peak season in Denmark. And tourists must be welcome, says several parties in the Folketing, who, however, distinguish the tourists' nationality before they want to raise the border boom. Among the parties, there is clear support to invite especially Germans, but also Norwegians, into Denmark. Because in Norway and Germany they have a similar infection risk as in Denmark, while the Covid-19 situation in Sweden is different, and therefore the Swedes still have to stay on their side of the strait.

This is the opinion of Jakob Ellemann-Jensen, chairman of the Left, among others. - I certainly do not think it is so that one should wait to open the border with Germany until you think it is justifiable also to open the border to Sweden. - If it is not justifiable for health to open the border with Sweden, then the Swedes can stay there and then the Germans can come up, he says. Kristian Thulesen Dahl, chairman of the Danish People's Party, supports this. - I believe that if you open differently to tourists from different countries, you can also open faster, he says , thus rejecting the government's argument that the borders to both Sweden, Germany and Norway must open at the same time.

Infection pressure in other countries is crucial

Søren Pape Poulsen, chairman of the Conservatives, was already out yesterday with the idea of ​​letting the Oslo boat sail tourists back and forth and at the same time allowing German tourists to occupy the West Jutland coast. - Countries that remind us of those who are in control of the infection and where the infection pressure is low, such as Norway and Germany, we must open for. At a minimum, those who have a rental certificate for a cottage, hotel or similar should be allowed to come in, he says, and continue: - There are many cultural and business issues related to the German border. For example, on the Danish west coast, the small towns are deeply dependent on a tourist season.

At the New Civil Party, party chairman Pernille Vermund is also ready to distinguish between the tourists' nationality, though she warns against just opening the locks, as was done before the Covid-19 crisis. - We cannot just open the borders completely, as they did before - nor for Norwegians and Germans. We need to find a way to ensure that the people who come here and stay here for a while can do so safely. - But we need to have those who have rented a cottage, a room in an inn or a hotel, and thus are an important part of the financial condition for many small urban communities in particular South Jutland, West Jutland and North Jutland, in a way, so it is connected, says Pernille Vermund.



Support from government support parties for civic idea

Even with the government's one support party, the Unity List, which is otherwise very careful about opening the borders right now, you support the idea of ​​looking at tourists differently according to the color of their passports. This is what political spokesman Pernille Skipper says. - It is obvious to think that there are some countries that you can open to holidaymakers from, while there are other countries that you cannot open the borders to. It's quite obvious, she says. Morten Østergaard, who generally prefers to open the borders to Sweden, Norway and Germany, is ready to welcome here and now tourists from countries with similar infection risk as the Danish as Norway and Germany now. - Countries that are in health in roughly the same situation as us, there is no reason to have restrictions against. Around Sweden, there may be health-related evidence to maintain border control that way - it just should not become an argument for not opening the border with Germany and Norway. - If there is evidence of a health professional to keep the border with Sweden closed, then of course you have to listen to them, he says.

Few parties are ready to welcome the Swedes

In addition, only the Alternative's political leader, Josephine Fock, and Alex Vanopslagh, the political leader of the Liberal Alliance, are ready to invite the Swedes to Denmark now. - As our outside world and other European countries say that we Danes must visit them, we must also say that they are welcome to visit us. I'm not so worried about a German married couple taking up a cottage on the beautiful west coast of Jutland. On the contrary, it will be good for the Danish economy and the hard-pressed municipalities, which have lost a lot of tourist revenue, says Alex Vanopslagh. The Swedes are also welcome, according to the Liberal Party leader. However, in general for tourists, it is important to keep away, wash hands and splash off. - I am sure that Swedes and Germans are equally good at behaving properly, says Alex Vanopslagh.

The government is refusing so far

According to the agreement for the reopening of Denmark, the government must announce by June 1 how to open the borders. If they need to be opened. And when. Yesterday, Justice Minister Nick Hekkerup (S) was under fire in the parliamentary hall from several parties that want the borders opened now. Here he went so far as to say that one would consider allowing German tourists with a rental contract for a holiday home as persons with "a worthy purpose" to enter Denmark. "I think this is a sensible approach," the Minister of Justice said.

When it comes to the border issue, it is up to the government alone to decide what should happen - regardless of the pressure from the other parties. By Thursday morning, Foreign Minister Jeppe Kofod (S) put his heels on behalf of the government. - This is what the Minister of Justice also said yesterday that we have a dialogue with our neighboring countries about entry restrictions and the border issue. We are still very concerned and very cautious. We still have the Covid-19 pandemic. - We are in the process of new phases of the reopening, so there are a number of elements around it. But we will come up with an answer to that before June 1, said Jeppe Kofod.

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Well, We Still Did Something Wrong ProfessorGAC May 2020 #1
I agree with you but the you could also argue another angle genxlib May 2020 #2
I Agree With Both Of You ProfessorGAC May 2020 #11
Just as in compound interest, early adjustments make large differences at the end. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #20
50% of Swedes live alone, the highest percentage of any country. SunSeeker May 2020 #3
39.2 percent of all households (and 17.8 percent of all people) here live alone Celerity May 2020 #18
I think the point is whether you "shut down" or not, Solomon May 2020 #4
We should do what South Korea did, not what Sweden did. SunSeeker May 2020 #5
THANK YOU !!! uponit7771 May 2020 #7
I think it's too early to draw that conclusion democrattotheend May 2020 #6
No, we can TTQ till a vaccine is made it will cost us little in time or money uponit7771 May 2020 #8
What's TTQ? democrattotheend May 2020 #9
Testing/Tracing/Quarintine like SK and 40 other nations have done that are out of the uponit7771 May 2020 #13
I'm surprised it hasn't been worse in Sweden DrToast May 2020 #10
Sweden was already socially distancing before the pandemic. SunSeeker May 2020 #15
You talk like there is no way to slow the spread through testing and contact tracing. SunSeeker May 2020 #14
Don't be so sure TheFarseer May 2020 #12
I've been positively disposed to a rational "get it over with" approach. LAS14 May 2020 #16
If we had the same death rate as South Korea, we'd only have 1,703 dead. SunSeeker May 2020 #19
We seem to be incapable of getting TheFarseer May 2020 #24
Trump won't invoke the Defense Production Act to mass produce tests. SunSeeker May 2020 #25
we may soon have a border dispute crisis, as the 3 main Scandinavian nations (us, Norway, Denmark) Celerity May 2020 #17
Denmark is sensible, even if their language is impossible, LOL. SunSeeker May 2020 #21
well, it cuts both ways in Denmark, not sure how many on this board like this: Celerity May 2020 #22
There is plenty of evidence masks work. SunSeeker May 2020 #23
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