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66. I'm just glad I don't have to see the establishment-neoliberal-status quo-elite-corporatist-centrist

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Mon May 18, 2020, 05:31 PM

May 2020

ridiculous name-calling crap every five minutes.

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Progressives thought they'd overtaken the Democratic Party. Now they're in despair. [View all] brooklynite May 2020 OP

2018 should have shown them they were not taking over the Democratic Party. Squinch May 2020 #1

And the moderates then beat the Republicans in suburban swing districts brooklynite May 2020 #2

Which is the whole damn point, isn't it? Beat the MFing GOP. Win. Hekate May 2020 #50

This! n/t MFGsunny May 2020 #78

They must have used a different krystal ball for their forecast. LiberalFighter May 2020 #62

Heh heh heh. Squinch May 2020 #70

Interesting. Laelth May 2020 #3

"Liberal" does not equal "left-wing" brooklynite May 2020 #17

As you say. All political studies show today's Dems are as liberal Hortensis May 2020 #19

New Deal era??? Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #59

:) I mean the LIBERAL Dems who mostly controlled the party, Hortensis May 2020 #61

If they controlled the party Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #71

Huh? You think we didn't? Hortensis May 2020 #72

The point is that "New Deal" era Democrats Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #73

:) You're right that averaging everything together, Hortensis May 2020 #74

So maybe it is time to stop involking the New Deal and FDR Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #86

I invoked it for its great liberal advances. We've made other Hortensis May 2020 #88

That's the problem Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #89

:) Oh, come on. No one sees the 1930s-40s, when we Hortensis May 2020 #90

Please many wrap themselves up Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #91

That is simply not true. Demsrule86 May 2020 #38

Even more interesting. Laelth May 2020 #40

We retook the house with 40 moderates...that is a fact. The places where we have opportunities are Demsrule86 May 2020 #84

I am no purist. Laelth May 2020 #85

I've been saying that for several years. LiberalFighter May 2020 #63

I don't think many people view many of these people as progressives JI7 May 2020 #4

Agree SharonClark May 2020 #43

Very true. Caliman73 May 2020 #64

I Hate That the Left Wing Of the Party Has Seemed to Hijack the Progressive Name Indykatie May 2020 #5

I don't really like the name "progressive" anyway LymphocyteLover May 2020 #7

Same here. I'm a liberal, always was a liberal, and always will be a liberal. dmr May 2020 #9

yes, I agree with all that LymphocyteLover May 2020 #23

AFAIK Laelth May 2020 #26

I feel the same. A progressive turned off by those who tried to co-opt progressivism Blasphemer May 2020 #87

Simply over estimated their positions in American political beachbumbob May 2020 #6

This. And in other eras they didn't need Russia's help to Hortensis May 2020 #21

For all the noise they make, progressive Dems have never been as popular LymphocyteLover May 2020 #8

Why are we still catering to them? redstatebluegirl May 2020 #10

Fingers crossed Rep. Rashida Tlaib is beaten. I really have a problem with her. LizBeth May 2020 #11

The "squad" was a creation of conservative media Azathoth May 2020 #12

Fact check BannonsLiver May 2020 #14

I'm not saying conservative media invented the word. I'm saying the image was their creation Azathoth May 2020 #15

Simple truth. Four outlier votes among 235. Media creation. Hortensis May 2020 #22

They self-named and they self-selected. Laelth May 2020 #29

Yes they self-named, but they were grouped together and promoted by the Fox-o-sphere nt Azathoth May 2020 #68

I've liked the idea of the squad since they emerged on the scene. Politicub May 2020 #47

More 'Dems be very afraid of more Demy Dems' drivel pecosbob May 2020 #13

I feel like the definition of "progressive" needs to be better understood and broadened Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #16

Not just generally speaking. Liberals are progressive. Hortensis May 2020 #31

That's true Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #32

:) Sure, but dishonest and/or ignorant booberkins, right? Hortensis May 2020 #41

I agree with a lot of their message TheFarseer May 2020 #18

Why am I not considered "Progressive" ismnotwasm May 2020 #20

i agree...and I am progressive, liberal...call it what you want. But, many Democrats including me Demsrule86 May 2020 #24

What went wrong? peggysue2 May 2020 #25

That is exactly what I think. Demsrule86 May 2020 #36

THIS!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Tarheel_Dem May 2020 #67

Count me in as well. MFGsunny May 2020 #82

Our Revolution ..."ambitious plan: to try to take over the Democratic Party Hortensis May 2020 #27

Very well laid out, Hortensis. Yes, we ARE the Liberal Party. Of course we can improve... Hekate May 2020 #52

Lol, they can't even "spare" each other. Hortensis May 2020 #57

Useful post greenjar_01 May 2020 #28

Yep. Bettie May 2020 #34

rigid and intolerant ideologues zak247 May 2020 #30

So, those of us farther to the Left should Bettie May 2020 #33

Be a part of the party...but in order to have much clout...you have to start winning hearts and Demsrule86 May 2020 #35

So, sit down and shut up Bettie May 2020 #42

Advocate. But do it courteously, and realize... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #39

Well said. SharonClark May 2020 #44

to which offices have you been elected by promoting your views? nt msongs May 2020 #45

So, no one is allowed an opinion unless Bettie May 2020 #46

Just don't make the perfect the enemy of the good Politicub May 2020 #49

I get all that Bettie May 2020 #51

In all my years on DU, I've never seen a post about hating progressives. Politicub May 2020 #58

My issue with our party's left flank... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #65

Derision of the left flank of the party is clearly creating further division. JudyM May 2020 #76

And the left flank of party's constant attack on "centrists?" Happy Hoosier May 2020 #80

My advice is to advocate for change, but... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #37

That's it, alienate 40% of the party. Let's see how that works if Biden selects a moderate VP. TheBlackAdder May 2020 #48

This seems unnecessarily divisive. Crunchy Frog May 2020 #53

I guess they just have to accept that the Democratic Party is a centrist party. aidbo May 2020 #54

Courting "voters on the left" might be a strategy if they actually came out and voted... brooklynite May 2020 #55

Yep fuck em if they won't vote for us. aidbo May 2020 #56

I don't think that's true... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #69

The problem is most misunderstood why Democrats lost elections Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #60

I'm just glad I don't have to see the establishment-neoliberal-status quo-elite-corporatist-centrist betsuni May 2020 #66

Try reading through this thread from the perspective of a DUer who leans more left than centrist. JudyM May 2020 #75

I'm a commie. Who are you to tell me what to do? betsuni May 2020 #77

Um, it was a suggestion. No need to attack. JudyM May 2020 #79

LOL you think I'm "centrist" betsuni May 2020 #83

And the opposite is true as well. Happy Hoosier May 2020 #81