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NNadir

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32. I'm a scientist working in the pharmaceutical field. I have worked on lipid physiology...
Tue May 19, 2020, 12:57 PM
May 2020

...for major portions of my career, and am a regular reader of major scientific journals in a cross disciplinary setting.

Included frequently are epidemiological papers. Obesity is a health risk, a very serious one, for diabetes, for heart disease, for strokes, for cancer, and - something with which I am currently struggling - muscular-skeletal syndromes.

Here is an open sourced paper from one of the most credible scientific journals, written by a consortium of health professionals from all over the world, Lancet, covering risk and mortality:

Global, regional, and national comparative risk assessment of 79 behavioural, environmental and occupational, and metabolic risks or clusters of risks, 1990–2015: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2015 (Lancet 2016; 388: 1659–724)

I invite you to open the paper, and search terms like BMI and Obesity, and then tell me I don't face risks from my weight.

It includes this text:

Between 1990 and 2015, global exposure to unsafe sanitation, household air pollution, childhood underweight,
childhood stunting, and smoking each decreased by more than 25%. Global exposure for several occupational risks,
high body-mass index (BMI), and drug use increased by more than 25% over the same period. All risks jointly evaluated in 2015 accounted for 57·8% (95% CI 56·6–58·8) of global deaths and 41·2% (39·8–42·8) of DALYs. In 2015, the ten largest contributors to global DALYs among Level 3 risks were high systolic blood pressure (211·8 million [192·7 million to 231·1 million] global DALYs), smoking (148·6 million [134·2 million to 163·1 million]), high fasting plasma glucose (143·1 million [125·1 million to 163·5 million]), high BMI (120·1 million [83·8 million to 158·4 million]), childhood undernutrition (113·3 million [103·9 million to 123·4 million]), ambient particulate matter (103·1 million [90·8 million to 115·1 million]), high total cholesterol (88·7 million [74·6 million to 105·7 million]), household air pollution (85·6 million [66·7 million to 106·1 million]), alcohol use (85·0 million [77·2 million to 93·0 million]), and diets high in sodium (83·0 million [49·3 million to 127·5 million])...

...Societal processes of urbanisation, the so-called westernisation of diets and lifestyles, and changes in employment activities, have all been viewed as primary drivers of changes in human health.21–24 Such shifts have been thought to lead to deteriorating diets, rising obesity, decreased physical activity, and, ultimately, to worsening levels of metabolic risks, with associated higher rates of cardiovascular diseases and cancers.25,26...


The bold is all mine.

You can believe what you want to believe, but this is a factual analysis, and facts matter.

One hears all kinds of things in pop information sites, and 90% of the time they include either huge inaccuracies, distortions, outright lies and/or a complete misapprehension of what is being said. My standard joke is that one cannot get a degree in journalism any more if one has passed a college level science course.

For most of my life, I was able to manage my weight by extreme exercise and rigorous attention to diet. However, I come from a long line of morbidly obese people. I'm not denying a genetic component, but am acknowledging that I can do things - which by the way I'm not doing - to ameliorate the risks of these genes. I am not doing these things now, and I fully and completely recognize my risks in not managing it.

I'm not in denial about my weight and it's effect on my health, irrespective of what journalists say. A lot of what passes for journalism these days is pernicious. I know I have a major health risk in failing to control my weight, but right now am not in condition to remedy it.

If people make fun of my weight - and they do - being an optimist, I tell myself that they care about me. That's not always true of course, but the social pressure to control my weight is one of those rare social pressures that can be good for me.


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The birth of Girtherism [View all] donkeypoofed May 2020 OP
instead of jelly beans in a jar lapfog_1 May 2020 #1
He is 10 pounds of shit in a five pound sack Captain Zero May 2020 #3
We used to call that "Filled to blivit," back in the day. Brother Mythos May 2020 #42
339 lbs would be my guess. Meadowoak May 2020 #2
At least! smirkymonkey May 2020 #4
No way he weights 340, c'mon ... mr_lebowski May 2020 #5
Yeah, but he's probably got hamberders and KFC and cans of Diet Coke stashed smirkymonkey May 2020 #7
My guess for Rump is 6 feet 1 inches tall, and around 20 and a half stones (287 pounds) Celerity May 2020 #8
I think you might be right Generic Other May 2020 #13
The doctor left off five stone. nt Ilsa May 2020 #34
He should be encouraged to do what Pooty did. Ride a horse shirt less and show the world what kind Alwaysna May 2020 #6
Oh God oldsoftie May 2020 #9
That's horse abuse. fleur-de-lisa May 2020 #10
Yeah - he'd be worse than that idiot sheriff who couldn't ride csziggy May 2020 #47
Just make sure it's a safeinOhio May 2020 #16
Or an Iron Horse BunnyMcGee May 2020 #17
The horse's back would break. BannonsLiver May 2020 #20
I want to see the long form, certified DOT ticket from freshly calibrated scales. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #11
Do you want that in KG or Lbs? Are we allowing for wind resistance? Ford_Prefect May 2020 #12
Show us your Girth Certificate SoonerPride May 2020 #14
weight shaming is dispicable scrabblequeen40 May 2020 #15
I agree. Ilsa May 2020 #35
#PresidentPlump is trending on twitter !!! OnDoutside May 2020 #18
Accusing: President Plump did it in the kitchen with a spork! Brainfodder May 2020 #44
I think he weighs just under 330 myself BannonsLiver May 2020 #19
239 kilos... Wounded Bear May 2020 #21
Lololol he doesn't have a clue how much that is. grantcart May 2020 #49
You're probably right...nt Wounded Bear May 2020 #52
A person's weight has nothing to do with their character, actions or morals. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #22
Given that Trump lies about his weight, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #23
Right, he's a liar. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #24
I believe the term "morbidly obese" PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #37
Expressing triumphant hilarity because Nancy Pelosi used a nonmedical term to describe WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #38
As a person who often shames MY OWN body, I don't have a problem with this. NNadir May 2020 #26
Thinking about stopping the practice of mocking people for physical traits that our friends and WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #27
Well, personally, I regard my own obesity as a health problem. NNadir May 2020 #28
Obesity is also not an indicator of poor health. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #29
I'm a scientist working in the pharmaceutical field. I have worked on lipid physiology... NNadir May 2020 #32
I'm sorry to hear that you view mocking as an expression of care and the people in your life WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #39
I'm not sorry. I have a sense of humor and the people I love know that. There are, of course... NNadir May 2020 #40
I definitely hear where you're coming from. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #41
Me too ! I feel everything you said! please consider trying IF donkeypoofed May 2020 #46
There was a paper on this topic, I think either in JAMA or NEJM. NNadir May 2020 #51
Who specifically is arguing that? LanternWaste May 2020 #50
As an old fat bald white guy... NNadir May 2020 #25
329 is more likely Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #30
Tubby Trump peggysue2 May 2020 #31
Show us the girth certificate... bluecollar2 May 2020 #33
CNN pundits this am were actually parsing words to say he was only clinically obese not morbidly wishstar May 2020 #36
I await him and his rigged scale claiming him fully clothed at 242. Brainfodder May 2020 #43
BMI 45 central scrutinizer May 2020 #45
Over 325 look at Trump from a side view. sarcasmo May 2020 #48
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