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Dem4Life1102

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91. Please many wrap themselves up

Tue May 19, 2020, 06:09 PM

May 2020

in FDR and the New Deal the way right wingers wrap themselves in the flag. It shows an enormous ignorance of the true history of what really happened back then.

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Progressives thought they'd overtaken the Democratic Party. Now they're in despair. [View all] brooklynite May 2020 OP

2018 should have shown them they were not taking over the Democratic Party. Squinch May 2020 #1

And the moderates then beat the Republicans in suburban swing districts brooklynite May 2020 #2

Which is the whole damn point, isn't it? Beat the MFing GOP. Win. Hekate May 2020 #50

This! n/t MFGsunny May 2020 #78

They must have used a different krystal ball for their forecast. LiberalFighter May 2020 #62

Heh heh heh. Squinch May 2020 #70

Interesting. Laelth May 2020 #3

"Liberal" does not equal "left-wing" brooklynite May 2020 #17

As you say. All political studies show today's Dems are as liberal Hortensis May 2020 #19

New Deal era??? Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #59

:) I mean the LIBERAL Dems who mostly controlled the party, Hortensis May 2020 #61

If they controlled the party Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #71

Huh? You think we didn't? Hortensis May 2020 #72

The point is that "New Deal" era Democrats Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #73

:) You're right that averaging everything together, Hortensis May 2020 #74

So maybe it is time to stop involking the New Deal and FDR Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #86

I invoked it for its great liberal advances. We've made other Hortensis May 2020 #88

That's the problem Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #89

:) Oh, come on. No one sees the 1930s-40s, when we Hortensis May 2020 #90

Please many wrap themselves up Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #91

That is simply not true. Demsrule86 May 2020 #38

Even more interesting. Laelth May 2020 #40

We retook the house with 40 moderates...that is a fact. The places where we have opportunities are Demsrule86 May 2020 #84

I am no purist. Laelth May 2020 #85

I've been saying that for several years. LiberalFighter May 2020 #63

I don't think many people view many of these people as progressives JI7 May 2020 #4

Agree SharonClark May 2020 #43

Very true. Caliman73 May 2020 #64

I Hate That the Left Wing Of the Party Has Seemed to Hijack the Progressive Name Indykatie May 2020 #5

I don't really like the name "progressive" anyway LymphocyteLover May 2020 #7

Same here. I'm a liberal, always was a liberal, and always will be a liberal. dmr May 2020 #9

yes, I agree with all that LymphocyteLover May 2020 #23

AFAIK Laelth May 2020 #26

I feel the same. A progressive turned off by those who tried to co-opt progressivism Blasphemer May 2020 #87

Simply over estimated their positions in American political beachbumbob May 2020 #6

This. And in other eras they didn't need Russia's help to Hortensis May 2020 #21

For all the noise they make, progressive Dems have never been as popular LymphocyteLover May 2020 #8

Why are we still catering to them? redstatebluegirl May 2020 #10

Fingers crossed Rep. Rashida Tlaib is beaten. I really have a problem with her. LizBeth May 2020 #11

The "squad" was a creation of conservative media Azathoth May 2020 #12

Fact check BannonsLiver May 2020 #14

I'm not saying conservative media invented the word. I'm saying the image was their creation Azathoth May 2020 #15

Simple truth. Four outlier votes among 235. Media creation. Hortensis May 2020 #22

They self-named and they self-selected. Laelth May 2020 #29

Yes they self-named, but they were grouped together and promoted by the Fox-o-sphere nt Azathoth May 2020 #68

I've liked the idea of the squad since they emerged on the scene. Politicub May 2020 #47

More 'Dems be very afraid of more Demy Dems' drivel pecosbob May 2020 #13

I feel like the definition of "progressive" needs to be better understood and broadened Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #16

Not just generally speaking. Liberals are progressive. Hortensis May 2020 #31

That's true Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #32

:) Sure, but dishonest and/or ignorant booberkins, right? Hortensis May 2020 #41

I agree with a lot of their message TheFarseer May 2020 #18

Why am I not considered "Progressive" ismnotwasm May 2020 #20

i agree...and I am progressive, liberal...call it what you want. But, many Democrats including me Demsrule86 May 2020 #24

What went wrong? peggysue2 May 2020 #25

That is exactly what I think. Demsrule86 May 2020 #36

THIS!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Tarheel_Dem May 2020 #67

Count me in as well. MFGsunny May 2020 #82

Our Revolution ..."ambitious plan: to try to take over the Democratic Party Hortensis May 2020 #27

Very well laid out, Hortensis. Yes, we ARE the Liberal Party. Of course we can improve... Hekate May 2020 #52

Lol, they can't even "spare" each other. Hortensis May 2020 #57

Useful post greenjar_01 May 2020 #28

Yep. Bettie May 2020 #34

rigid and intolerant ideologues zak247 May 2020 #30

So, those of us farther to the Left should Bettie May 2020 #33

Be a part of the party...but in order to have much clout...you have to start winning hearts and Demsrule86 May 2020 #35

So, sit down and shut up Bettie May 2020 #42

Advocate. But do it courteously, and realize... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #39

Well said. SharonClark May 2020 #44

to which offices have you been elected by promoting your views? nt msongs May 2020 #45

So, no one is allowed an opinion unless Bettie May 2020 #46

Just don't make the perfect the enemy of the good Politicub May 2020 #49

I get all that Bettie May 2020 #51

In all my years on DU, I've never seen a post about hating progressives. Politicub May 2020 #58

My issue with our party's left flank... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #65

Derision of the left flank of the party is clearly creating further division. JudyM May 2020 #76

And the left flank of party's constant attack on "centrists?" Happy Hoosier May 2020 #80

My advice is to advocate for change, but... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #37

That's it, alienate 40% of the party. Let's see how that works if Biden selects a moderate VP. TheBlackAdder May 2020 #48

This seems unnecessarily divisive. Crunchy Frog May 2020 #53

I guess they just have to accept that the Democratic Party is a centrist party. aidbo May 2020 #54

Courting "voters on the left" might be a strategy if they actually came out and voted... brooklynite May 2020 #55

Yep fuck em if they won't vote for us. aidbo May 2020 #56

I don't think that's true... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #69

The problem is most misunderstood why Democrats lost elections Dem4Life1102 May 2020 #60

I'm just glad I don't have to see the establishment-neoliberal-status quo-elite-corporatist-centrist betsuni May 2020 #66

Try reading through this thread from the perspective of a DUer who leans more left than centrist. JudyM May 2020 #75

I'm a commie. Who are you to tell me what to do? betsuni May 2020 #77

Um, it was a suggestion. No need to attack. JudyM May 2020 #79

LOL you think I'm "centrist" betsuni May 2020 #83

And the opposite is true as well. Happy Hoosier May 2020 #81