General Discussion

Ms. Toad

(38,607 posts)

47. Knowing what he meant has nothing to do with thinking it was either just hunky-dory -

Sat May 23, 2020, 02:04 PM

May 2020

(on the one hand) or a reason to vote for Trump (on the other).

Binary thinking is ridiculous. As is suggesting I hold a focus group.

I'm not a newspaper reporter or a business. I have conversations with my friends, and our conversations are a whole lot more nuanced than your insistence that the only options are shit-stirrers who should vote for Trump - or- a hear-no-evil Biden is perfect cheering squad .

Politically motivated gags on against holding our politicians self-accountable are just as toxic when our side employs them than they are when Trump demands a loyalty oath on his side.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

109 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Dear White People; Gonna need y'all to sit this one out. [View all] kpete May 2020 OP

TRUTH - tell it!! walkingman May 2020 #1

No. We, too, understand the difference. We also understand how right-wing operatives... SMC22307 May 2020 #2

So? Tom Rinaldo May 2020 #4

I don't share your cavalier attitude... SMC22307 May 2020 #5

As the OP says....... secondwind May 2020 #42

meh. marble falls May 2020 #92

Agreed DENVERPOPS May 2020 #104

Sometimes it's just best to let people wallow in their defeatism for a while BannonsLiver May 2020 #15

It was an unforced error and Team Biden is in damage control mode. SMC22307 May 2020 #20

There there BannonsLiver May 2020 #21

Yeah, it's always like that. The first one R B Garr May 2020 #72

what damage? azureblue May 2020 #24

You didn't hear? Because of what Biden said Trump won in a landslide. It's all over. BannonsLiver May 2020 #26

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! secondwind May 2020 #43

Lots of people need to watch their mouth. I can think R B Garr May 2020 #81

agreed Skittles May 2020 #98

I guess that will depend on this: DFW May 2020 #8

You not familiar with Candace Owens? Black MAGATs? Don Jr... SMC22307 May 2020 #13

I have no idea who Candace Owens is DFW May 2020 #19

It is always better to not take anything for granted DIVINEprividence May 2020 #55

AA voters are not a monolith. Tipperary May 2020 #10

This pic scares the shit out of me, same with lily-white scamvangelicals... SMC22307 May 2020 #16

This DU-er does not live in a bubble LakeArenal May 2020 #66

It's absolutely for the soul of the United States. SMC22307 May 2020 #77

Confidence and faith are not cavalier. LakeArenal May 2020 #78

I think we've seen all this before with the Hillary R B Garr May 2020 #79

You are concerned. Tommymac May 2020 #86

I do not know Candace Owens, but I do work with black people who voted for rump. Tipperary May 2020 #105

Well hen something's wrong with them. Self hating blacks is wat I'd call hem. Dream Girl May 2020 #18

That's exactly what my black friends say, too. That's what I just said. They're 100% with you. ancianita May 2020 #41

True, but they are a smaller percentage of black people treestar May 2020 #89

Reminds me of the MyOwnPeace May 2020 #3

Borrowing from Sophia Nelson. We can tell the difference between a bad joke and a bad man tulipsandroses May 2020 #6

I like that! "...the difference between a bad joke and a bad man." calimary May 2020 #102

I liked the comment about Ralph Northam Proud liberal 80 May 2020 #7

Black Virginians, too n/t DFW May 2020 #9

Lol Proud liberal 80 May 2020 #11

I kinda liked it the way you had it before DFW May 2020 #12

Ikr.. That was Awesome! Cha May 2020 #69

I take my cue from my black friends - Ms. Toad May 2020 #14

I'd say your "black friends" are just looking for shit. I'd say most blacks know extactly Dream Girl May 2020 #22

Obama didn't choose Biden azureblue May 2020 #27

I don't even understand wat you're saying. As someone who's been black for 60 + years Dream Girl May 2020 #32

What?! What does Pres Obama have to do with Dream Girl's post? Cha May 2020 #70

Nope. Ms. Toad May 2020 #31

Should we just get into the circular firing squad formation now or should we wait a while longer. Dream Girl May 2020 #33

Nothing to do with a circular firing squad Ms. Toad May 2020 #36

Blah lash blah...we are living an existential crisis. That's some silly shit right there. Dream Girl May 2020 #39

Not based on the actual conversations I'm having with the black people in my life Ms. Toad May 2020 #44

Have you held a focus group among you black friends? Either they are engaging in faux outrage Dream Girl May 2020 #45

Knowing what he meant has nothing to do with thinking it was either just hunky-dory - Ms. Toad May 2020 #47

He apologized. What would who you "black friends" like now? Self flagellation? Dream Girl May 2020 #49

You're obviously (1) not reading what I say Ms. Toad May 2020 #50

You have a lot of patience, to be sure. demmiblue May 2020 #52

"This poster" is Fine! Cha May 2020 #71

Oh, such irony. R B Garr May 2020 #76

My black friends don't look for shit and they're exactly 100% with you on this one. ancianita May 2020 #34

I'd say if three years of Trump, if they consider this an issue, they are looking for shit Dream Girl May 2020 #38

In New Orleans with his family. I didn't even ask, he just said it jokingly on the phone. ancianita May 2020 #51

Happy to do so quakerboy May 2020 #17

Oh no edhopper May 2020 #23

Nope us crackers will not sit this one out azureblue May 2020 #25

thanks for the whitesplaining, I had forgotten to get my morning dose Celerity May 2020 #64

Yeah! If we don't let it divide us then that promotes division! Iggo May 2020 #80

he asks white people.... quickesst May 2020 #28

Dear Black People Roy Rolling May 2020 #29

I hope we don't fall for the right wing psyops again. SunSeeker May 2020 #30

I have not heard any liberal or progressive saying Joe is racist as a result of this comment Ms. Toad May 2020 #46

He apologized, he showed maturity. Continuing to bash him is falling for GOP psyops. SunSeeker May 2020 #60

It is not a binary choice Ms. Toad May 2020 #62

I didn't say it was. No one is pretending it didn't happen. SunSeeker May 2020 #63

The context of the thread Ms. Toad May 2020 #65

Again, how is continuing to talk about this productive at this point? SunSeeker May 2020 #67

Welp. sheshe2 May 2020 #82

Yep. We can't fall for the psyops again. It is literally killing us. SunSeeker May 2020 #97

I explained. Ms. Toad May 2020 #87

You did not explain how continuing to talk about this is constructive. SunSeeker May 2020 #96

Since you obviously didn't listen and read everythign I posted Ms. Toad May 2020 #103

Everyone has "processed" his gaffe and immediate apology. SunSeeker May 2020 #106

You can only speak for yourself as to whether you have processed it. Ms. Toad May 2020 #107

Give your black friends more credit. I am sure they have processed it by now. SunSeeker May 2020 #108

Again, clearly indicating you have not read my posts. Ms. Toad May 2020 #109

I'm voting for the awkward ally IronLionZion May 2020 #35

Okay, sitting it out.. but you know where I am when needed! JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2020 #37

ABSOLUTELY! Tell it! secondwind May 2020 #40

Well, yeah, Biden is awkward. But he was a successful, cheerful, effective second fiddle to PatrickforO May 2020 #48

+1 sheshe2 May 2020 #83

This is right wing hype. Not worried at all DIVINEprividence May 2020 #53

Happy to comply wryter2000 May 2020 #54

I like this guys twitter feed DIVINEprividence May 2020 #56

Biden's comment is not going to switch any black people into voting for trump wellst0nev0ter May 2020 #57

your concern is noted.. In my Experience Black Voters Cha May 2020 #73

I have a lot of experience with black voters too wellst0nev0ter May 2020 #85

⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R ⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone May 2020 #58

Hear hear! karin_sj May 2020 #59

Awkward Ally Joe Biden, I can't imagine who the virulent racist is? Brainfodder May 2020 #61

23.9K Retweets 143.3K Likes Retweeted! Cha May 2020 #68

yeah I know that Skittles May 2020 #74

OK, fine. nt Raine May 2020 #75

Move on tirebiter May 2020 #84

It's just amazing that Dotard's supporters treestar May 2020 #88

I agree with this take wellst0nev0ter May 2020 #90

So many offended on behalf of others lame54 May 2020 #91

So few, actually. whathehell May 2020 #101

Dear American People Wolf Frankula May 2020 #93

The problem is TlalocW May 2020 #94

Yup Joinfortmill May 2020 #95

I'm white, and I'm buying it. TryLogic May 2020 #99

Dear Black People, most of us are not inclined to do otherwise, whathehell May 2020 #100