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JonLP24

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25. For me personally

Tue May 26, 2020, 07:35 AM

May 2020

I think it is a false choice. I'm both anti-racism & left wing on economics. If you focus too much on economics you run into problems Sanders did. If you ignore economics you risk losing votes to the faux populist right.

I have been mostly confused with complaints of identity politics from Sanders supporters. I don't agree with every single Sanders supporters just because I was a Sanders supporter. Same thing with Obama I supported Obama but didn't agree with every Obama supporter.

To tell you the truth I have seen more problems of racism from yellow dog Democrats or Conservative Democrats. We have Bill Maher fans here.

On edit : according to social media Amy Cooper is a registered Democrat that donated to Obama twice. I doubt considering the firm she works for that she is a Sanders supporter.

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Chris Evans: The "progressive" left needs to stop pretending income equality will solve racism [View all] StarfishSaver May 2020 OP

They are the same ones who blame black women for problems in the criminal JI7 May 2020 #1

The Animal Rescue has taken possession of Amy Cooper's dog. mcar May 2020 #2

YEP. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #3

Read she deleted all her social media as well. sheshe2 May 2020 #4

That was the big fight in 2016 Renew Deal May 2020 #5

Different issues of fairness to me. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #6

Well, they were. Or at least one segment of the left was/is.* As a woman I can certainly tell you... Hekate May 2020 #15

Maybe some people think that way, but not me. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #17

Thank You. Agreed 100%. nt Progressive Jones May 2020 #59

no, but it's an essential step in that direction mike_c May 2020 #7

K&R Solly Mack May 2020 #8

It won't solve every problem Bettie May 2020 #9

Surely it's a worthwhile goal StarfishSaver May 2020 #13

Thank You! Cha May 2020 #14

Yes Hekate May 2020 #16

+1. dalton99a May 2020 #19

I never said it should be the only goal Bettie May 2020 #26

+100000 Celerity May 2020 #35

I don't think anyone is saying it's these folks' only goal, but it is often their PRIMARY goal StarfishSaver May 2020 #36

that was not my point Celerity May 2020 #38

You're right - they're intersectional StarfishSaver May 2020 #43

Because the reason why many minorities are lower on the economic scale is because of racism JI7 May 2020 #21

Oh, I get that Bettie May 2020 #27

Warren did not ignore social justice, she hit it head on. Sanders on the other hand verbally told us LizBeth May 2020 #39

I'm not a Sanders supporter Bettie May 2020 #44

I didn't say you were a Sanders supporter. I told you what Sanders has said about social justice and LizBeth May 2020 #46

Who is arguing (or even implying) it's not a worthwhile goal? LanternWaste May 2020 #52

Retweeted.. Thank you, Chris Evans.. Amy Cooper makes this Cha May 2020 #10

It never stops. sheshe2 May 2020 #11

Better financial and educational resources for poor WHITE people (in addition to everyone else) coti May 2020 #12

Glad the mocking of "identity politics" seems to have gone out of fashion. betsuni May 2020 #18

+1 LizBeth May 2020 #40

WTF..? Hulk May 2020 #20

Bernie Sanders, for one. He has evolved and changed his opinion since a few years ago. betsuni May 2020 #22

Unfortunately, many if his supporters have not evolved and still hold that opinion StarfishSaver May 2020 #29

Yes, unfortunately. betsuni May 2020 #31

Recent article from Symone Sanders about when she met with Bernie in 2015 PunkinPi May 2020 #30

+1 betsuni May 2020 #32

Thank you for that from Symone, Punkin.. Cha May 2020 #49

SEnator Bernie Sanders for one obamanut2012 May 2020 #33

Yes, Sanders. Repeatedly. LizBeth May 2020 #41

Nice broad brush ya got there Chris. progressoid May 2020 #23

Ditto, on sexism Fresh_Start May 2020 #24

For me personally JonLP24 May 2020 #25

K&R PunkinPi May 2020 #28

I don't know one single progressive person on the left who thinks income equality will solve racism, Autumn May 2020 #34

Then you haven't been paying attention StarfishSaver May 2020 #37

I know what this is, he may be uncomfortable talking of income inequality. I'm not. As a WOC I also Autumn May 2020 #66

Same with reparations cbdo2007 May 2020 #42

Is it Left bashing day again? Sympthsical May 2020 #45

Right on mvd May 2020 #47

+1 Sympthsical May 2020 #63

If you think "no one anywhere ever said economic justice will 'solve' racism," you haven't StarfishSaver May 2020 #48

Well, you know who had an incredibly strong focus on economic justice...right? coti May 2020 #51

Oh Lord - here we go. The Dr. King card ... StarfishSaver May 2020 #53

So, you think you know better than Martin Luther King? coti May 2020 #56

Not at all StarfishSaver May 2020 #57

So explain why polls repeatedly show poorer, under-educated white people tend to vote for coti May 2020 #58

No, better off, less-educated white people voted for him, the "diploma divide." betsuni May 2020 #61

Why are you asking for an explanation for an assumption that bears no relation to the topic? StarfishSaver May 2020 #62

Racial inequalities *are* the economic gap Sympthsical May 2020 #65

You apparently are not aware that not all or even most of the black community are in an "economic StarfishSaver May 2020 #68

Post removed Post removed May 2020 #64

Well said. Pretty much sums up my primary voting thinking for the past 2 elections...nt Blasphemer May 2020 #50

It looks like Amy Cooper, the white woman in the viral Central Park video, is a liberal. JonLP24 May 2020 #54

You should make this an OP StarfishSaver May 2020 #55

With all due respect, Mr. Evans, Goodheart May 2020 #60

OK ... let's also remember racism was invented so we'd have an easy definition of exploitable people struggle4progress May 2020 #67

Progressive Left: I believe you have good hearts. raging moderate May 2020 #69