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In reply to the discussion: France: Yet another nation turns against globalism: 80% see it as a job-killer [View all]Zalatix
(8,994 posts)You're just angry and desperately grasping for consolation against the fact that Democrats and Republicans alike have no tolerance anymore for your outdated views on trade.
Opposition to offshoring began among France's working class, moreso than it began among the Right. The same is true here.
Once again I will say: Go ahead and ask 10 working class Democrats if they want to see their job go overseas and I promise you you'll bat 0 for 10. Zero. But you won't do that, because you know your feelings will get hurt and you'll have to run back to hug your Pew poll like a security blanket.
Your argument about the Gilded Age ignores two glaring facts: the huge excise taxes on alcohol and tobacco, and THE MONOPOLIES. Monopolies were what drove prices through the roof, far moreso than tariffs. And we have some hefty taxes now on alcohol and tobacco, for the sake of people's health. I'm just waiting for you to show us a cite that the Conservatives started that shit. You should be opposing tobacco and alcohol taxes just about any moment now. Moreover, we didn't import nearly as much back then as we do now. In fact, during the Smoot-Hawley years, we were running trade surpluses. Times ARE different now, because we're running monster deficits. WAY different.
In short, that whole cite you posted about how tariffs affected our economy? It doesn't say what you think it says.
Your problem is that your ideology has no friends in any segment of the working class populace. You want to keep blaming it on the Far Right, but that's your smokescreen for avoiding the fact that opposition to offshoring came from somewhere else: the working class.
Your only friends here are the Cato Institute, and the US Chamber of Commerce. Since you refused to answer Romulox's post, I'll repost it here for you.
http://www.cato.org/globalization
Ultimately, what you really don't want to address is the fact that the world is building walls aimed specifically at keeping American workers out of the American AND global labor market. I'll be sure to keep bringing this up, because it is the most basic and damaging flaw in your argument.