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Scootaloo

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21. Your response reminds me of that quote often attributed to Stalin

Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:43 AM

Sep 2012

"A Single Death is a Tragedy; a Million Deaths is a Statistic"

How many Iraqis have died since you and I elected to invade their nation? Yes, you and I, welcome to the responsibilities of democracy.
How many Afghans?
How many Iraqis did we kill in the Gulf War? How many died due to our sanctions that were, as Albright put it, "worth it"?
How many Iranians, Kuwaitis, and Kurds did we kill, by bankrolling Saddam Hussein in the first place?
How many Iranians did we kill by installing and bankrolling the Shah?
From Morocco to Pakistan, how many people have died or "disappeared" due to US interests?

You're right, the people who killed our foreign officers are murderers. But you don't get to be so fucking self-righteous about it. Your votes and your apathy - along with mine, and every other American here - have outweighed that death toll by at least a millionfold.

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It isn't the movie. It's imperial power stripping the status of adulthood from people-- [View all] eridani Sep 2012 OP

No, Ma'am, It Is People Taking their Religious Beliefs Much Too Seriously The Magistrate Sep 2012 #1

It is, People taking violent action, Fundies are Demented orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #5

And why do you think that Shrubby had a 90% approval rating after 9/11? eridani Sep 2012 #51

Agreed. nt greytdemocrat Sep 2012 #12

said the representative of the occupying force HiPointDem Sep 2012 #48

Which part of Egypt, Libya, or Tunis are we occupying? nt NutmegYankee Sep 2012 #64

Tribal in-group loyalty gave rise to religion, not the other way around n/t eridani Sep 2012 #50

Shhh Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #57

Good Point, the straw more than the cause. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #2

Nice defense attempt. Zax2me Sep 2012 #3

Your response reminds me of that quote often attributed to Stalin Scootaloo Sep 2012 #21

Well said malaise Sep 2012 #27

This is not the US's fault. Sorry, that won't fly. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #4

Whoops a daisy ,We don't give Iran any reason to hate orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #10

Whoops a daisy, that's some lame blame shifting. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #15

I don't live in Iran or the rest of the world I orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #16

This type of hatred toward the U.S. choie Sep 2012 #34

"If we don't look deeper nothing will change" the most cogent and sensitive statement I have 2on2u Sep 2012 #41

Thank you. Ship of Fools Sep 2012 #45

It's US foreign policy that caused this. Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #19

Ludicrous. A mob caused it. A mindless mob. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #24

Oh yeah, we are just skipping around the world with a basket full of rainbows Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #35

Then why don't the protesters protest THAT? Are they unable to spell it? Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #38

Who says they aren't? Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #39

Ad hominum much? Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #42

Ooooooooooo Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #43

Are you fugging serious? n/t malaise Sep 2012 #28

I gues this wasn't our fault either, must have just had engine trouble. 2on2u Sep 2012 #29

This is about the riot, not some other topic. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #31

Did I say anyone deserves a free pass? My point is that some of these people have had enough, this 2on2u Sep 2012 #33

Every picture tells a story, Thanks. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #37

That's true. It's just one way of looking at it. Somebody could write a book on it. limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #6

Hard as it is for some people to believe NoPasaran Sep 2012 #7

And as a free citizen that Pays for the USA orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #13

I'd take it back to the partitioning of the Ottoman empire after World War I slackmaster Sep 2012 #8

I concur for the most part. BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #14

The idea of the "White Man's Burden" is alive and well. baldguy Sep 2012 #9

Hmm tama Sep 2012 #11

Yes--but it's not to the point where they are taking out people with drones within our borders eridani Sep 2012 #52

Not really tama Sep 2012 #53

Just heard someone MSNBC used as an expert say nc4bo Sep 2012 #17

Other experts say that's what their old dictators did. moondust Sep 2012 #25

The system's analogy that I'm working with is fire. HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #18

It's the right on both sides, coupled with us overthrowing the Democratically elected Dustlawyer Sep 2012 #20

You're right...it's appalling that most DU'ers aren't getting this...knr joeybee12 Sep 2012 #22

Except they would have killed any local caseymoz Sep 2012 #23

I think they really don't understand that our laws don't provide for any kind of punishment... slackmaster Sep 2012 #26

And you're right about that. caseymoz Sep 2012 #30

This has US Imperialism written all over it. BB1 Sep 2012 #32

Strange, you remember those examples caseymoz Sep 2012 #44

Is that you, Ward Churchill? Odin2005 Sep 2012 #36

It's got zero to do with Iran.. EX500rider Sep 2012 #40

The cultural and population center of the Arab world has no oil. cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #46

K&R. Pisses me off that people can't put themselves in other people's shoes & THINK how they'd HiPointDem Sep 2012 #47

I agree, HiPointDem... choie Sep 2012 #49

You what is disusting? SpartanDem Sep 2012 #59

you know what's worse? killing hundreds of thousands of people over power & control of resources. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #60

That would apply to all of humanity. NutmegYankee Sep 2012 #62

in the present day it applies mainly to the us. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #63

So what's the statute of limitations? NutmegYankee Sep 2012 #66

us today = biggest military spender, biggest arms dealer, biggest voice in regional military HiPointDem Sep 2012 #68

I don't recall any of that happening in Eqypt by us. NutmegYankee Sep 2012 #61

We did all that to Libya? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #72

K & R for the title of this thread alone. The Midway Rebel Sep 2012 #54

No, it's the culture... MellowDem Sep 2012 #55

Explain Salman Rushdie and Theo Van Gogh? This just some blame America first BS SpartanDem Sep 2012 #56

1953? aquart Sep 2012 #58

So you don't believe the muslims Quantess Sep 2012 #65

Then why doesn't this happen everywhere else the US has been as oppressive, exploitative, murderous? riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #67

Google "Yanqui go home!" for starters. eridani Sep 2012 #69

Your OP's making the point that US imperialism has created the rage in the ME that fuels these riots riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #70

The rage in Latin America was every bit as intense in the 50s and 60s eridani Sep 2012 #71

But there wasn't any violent riots, storming of US embassies, terrorism aimed at military personnel riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #74

Of course there were violent riots eridani Sep 2012 #75

That's exactly right. People like to act like the movie exists in a vacuum and that the wiggs Sep 2012 #73