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ChairmanAgnostic

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27. I think the vitriol directed to Clinton was just as bad

Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:23 AM

Sep 2012

The only difference was the honeymoon was from the media.

With Obama, at least in terms of a media honeymoon, it was the opposite. They were so used to (and quite possibly ashamed of) being little more than lapdogs for the Cheney Bush administration, that even those who were not secretly on Cheney's payroll realized that they had to be stronger and most forceful. So, the easiest path to reclaiming journalistic independence was to attack, or at least, not support Obama.

There were few stories about how the GOP was stopping everything, threatening, bullying, and even risking the credibility and credit of the USA. Instead, by being fair and balanced, they attacked Obama and followed the lead of GOP spokesnakes.

The GOPers hate anyone who may disagree with them. They routinely practice kneecapping, especially if one of their own, dares act, think, or speak independently.

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Chuck Todd is flabbergasted that the polling has stratified so early in the process.... [View all] WCGreen Sep 2012 OP

I think upChuck would bite one the Clydesdales couldn't pull if... Hubert Flottz Sep 2012 #1

I personally think romney's the reason. people just don't trust him ejpoeta Sep 2012 #2

And that is because he is so exposed due to the slogging nature of this campaign WCGreen Sep 2012 #7

I was scowling at the polls yesterday XemaSab Sep 2012 #35

to be fair, Bush wasn't exactly beloved when he came into office WooWooWoo Sep 2012 #3

Interesting how that was done by Ilsa Sep 2012 #9

A most important distinction. Interesting that your reply is seemingly ignored. Scuba Sep 2012 #29

I forgot about those tomatoes n/t goclark Sep 2012 #28

There is nothing ''fair'' about that comparison. A group of citizens reacting to a bloodless coup is Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #36

But Chuckie was quick to say that the Middle East protests could hurt Obama. charmay Sep 2012 #4

Chuck is a Rovian hatchet man... Hubert Flottz Sep 2012 #8

So is Snooki grantcart Sep 2012 #5

I voted for Perot, so I know the "Bush lost because of Perot" claim is invalid. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #6

but those rabid republicans would have never voted for Clinton. WCGreen Sep 2012 #10

I think they didn't vote. I do not think Perot took any more votes from Bush Sr than from Clinton. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #17

When I have a little more time I will go back and see how the numbers played out. WCGreen Sep 2012 #37

Those of us who voted for Perot probably paid more attention to him than others. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #41

Heh! I voted for Perot, too alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #25

i voted for perot too. it was my first election and I watched the debates ejpoeta Sep 2012 #44

Republicans are extremely sore losers Freddie Sep 2012 #11

that was because they were emboldened by the realignment of the voters WCGreen Sep 2012 #13

I agree with your posts aaaaaa5a Sep 2012 #21

And this is why the Repubs use the tactics they do to try and hold onto power. Jennicut Sep 2012 #46

Declining number of White males as the Boomers age and die off. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #38

A decline in the White Males numbers should be stated as a decline of the WCGreen Sep 2012 #39

Yes, that's a real double whammy there. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #40

Well the one sure thing is their motto of making Obama a one term president davidpdx Sep 2012 #16

It's going to be a long 8 weeks! Freddie Sep 2012 #19

Haha davidpdx Sep 2012 #24

Part of that was for Watergate! gopiscrap Sep 2012 #31

The 24/7 coverage means opinions are formed early smorkingapple Sep 2012 #12

Chuck wants to play with his toy until Nov. 6 BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #14

Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #15

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #26

I loved that skit! smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #42

Here you go-- msanthrope Sep 2012 #43

Thanks! smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #45

We have his back. wilt the stilt Sep 2012 #18

Well said I agree rbrnmw Sep 2012 #20

"Republican" is the "default" setting for the presidency SoCalDem Sep 2012 #22

The honeymoon ended before the inaugural ball. CanonRay Sep 2012 #23

I think the vitriol directed to Clinton was just as bad ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2012 #27

For Clinton, it was still before Fox was on a lot of Cable Systems... WCGreen Sep 2012 #33

Good points. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2012 #34

Is this book still available? gopiscrap Sep 2012 #30

Yes it is.... WCGreen Sep 2012 #32