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The Magistrate

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9. That Is a Sound Point, Ma'am
Sat May 30, 2020, 07:35 AM
May 2020

Most commentary on Gandhi, the prototype of non-violent action, quite omits to note the presence of violent bodies opposed to English rule which made dealing with Gandhi a preferable option. There is little reason to suppose without these bodies, and without violent outbreaks near the start of the Second World War, success would have crowned his efforts.

Thank you for bringing a bit of actual history into discussion of the American Revolution. I would add two items only. Many of the 'businessmen' were smugglers whose business was evading the excise on various items, and the 'Boston Tea Party' was directed against the prospect of teas being brought in at a rate lower than the smugglers charged, as the Crown had changed regulations to allow the East India Company to charge less for teas it had not been able to sell previously either in England or the Colonies.

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Yep PJMcK May 2020 #1
There is a difference. OneBro May 2020 #12
Come on now JackSabbath May 2020 #21
Got a source on that? Never read that anywhere... albacore May 2020 #34
Depends, JackSabbath May 2020 #42
If Zinn doesn't include that.... I tend to not believe it. albacore May 2020 #56
Dumping tea into the ocean IS stealing it. StarfishSaver May 2020 #40
You forgot to read before typing. OneBro May 2020 #52
Trump used his power to stop the take a knee protests RAB910 May 2020 #2
Thank you. What Kennedy said is so very true. Wealth & income inequality means revolution certain Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #15
+1 - Agreed. c-rational May 2020 #38
Thanks ... marble falls May 2020 #3
Your Two Excerpts, At Least, Ma'am, Carry Little Weight The Magistrate May 2020 #4
A Native American activist that I once knew said... pazzyanne May 2020 #6
Damn, that's powerful. groundloop May 2020 #28
Yes! pazzyanne May 2020 #44
This should be published in every medium available. Very well said. THIS: oldsoftie May 2020 #7
Well said. Tipperary May 2020 #8
K&R SharonClark May 2020 #14
Well said! Thank you!! OneBro May 2020 #18
K&R Owl May 2020 #20
You're making a valid point about whether these actions are effective StarfishSaver May 2020 #45
The Riots Of the Sixties, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #50
MANY factors put Nixon into office. It's not fair or accurate to blame the riots. StarfishSaver May 2020 #53
I Read It When It Came Out, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #55
I understand your point StarfishSaver May 2020 #62
We Agree In Large Part, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #65
Indeed StarfishSaver May 2020 #68
+ struggle4progress May 2020 #58
Detroit never recovered from the effects of the 1967 riot MichMan May 2020 #59
I'm not sure Detroit's problems can be blamed solely on the riots StarfishSaver May 2020 #60
Of course not solely, but played a major part. MichMan May 2020 #63
I don't even think it can be said they played a major part StarfishSaver May 2020 #71
Positive change in Los Angeles came about after the LA Riots in 1992... AntiFascist May 2020 #61
That had more to do with change in demographics JI7 May 2020 #67
Not according to this article, although it took a decade to make substantial changes... AntiFascist May 2020 #69
+1 ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #81
Riots focus attention and trigger delayed action. Hortensis May 2020 #5
That Is a Sound Point, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #9
+100 on that first point especially. I was wrong, someone has died, Hortensis May 2020 #16
Also a protester in Detroit. wnylib May 2020 #23
A Bar Owner In Louisville Too ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #82
Detroit never recovered from the 1967 riots MichMan May 2020 #10
My response: lastlib May 2020 #11
That's why they built elections every 2 and 4 years into our democracy, Hortensis May 2020 #19
Many of these folks are getting their vote taken away AllyCat May 2020 #24
Of course they do. It insults all voters, including minority, Hortensis May 2020 #39
Rather, never solving anything casues riots. Iterate May 2020 #13
Well stated. Original with you?? nt LAS14 May 2020 #33
Yes. Iterate May 2020 #46
People opposed to destroying property always support the Boston Tea Party IronLionZion May 2020 #17
The same thing happened in wnylib May 2020 #25
Peaceful Protest Interrupted By Swarm Of Aggressive Black-Clad Militants IronLionZion May 2020 #26
IMO, riots are a regrettable but entirely understandable consequence LymphocyteLover May 2020 #22
Exactly. Thank you for posting this. ancianita May 2020 #27
Yes this is true☝️ I_UndergroundPanther May 2020 #72
Can't be bothered with this false equivalency. 58Sunliner May 2020 #29
It is confusing, is it not? Tipperary May 2020 #49
thank you Skittles May 2020 #57
Bingo. Tipperary May 2020 #66
They're engaging in a strawman argument. Crunchy Frog May 2020 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Evergreen Emerald May 2020 #30
LOL. 58Sunliner Jun 2020 #80
The colonist had NO say in how they were governed, a huge difference beachbumbob May 2020 #31
Unfortunately, history shows that rioting is often the ONLY thing that finally precipitates change. LAS14 May 2020 #32
Complete and total BS.... paleotn May 2020 #35
You need to study history before throwing out such a shallow dismissal of a very complex phenomenon StarfishSaver May 2020 #47
You are aware that.... paleotn May 2020 #51
Just read that Bettie May 2020 #36
Many of the businesses destroyed are OWNED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR.... paleotn May 2020 #37
"Easy to say when it isn't YOUR SHIT being burned and looted" StarfishSaver May 2020 #48
Killer Mike's view Mosby May 2020 #41
Why presume that it's the protestors that are rioting? Jillgirl May 2020 #43
I think that's been the assumption, but it's becoming clearer that a very small percentage of the StarfishSaver May 2020 #54
there are posts here justifying arson Skittles May 2020 #78
Riots have many different effects BlueWI May 2020 #64
The two threads on this topic prove Jason Johnson's point Blasphemer May 2020 #73
Word StarfishSaver May 2020 #75
you think arson is a swell idea? Skittles May 2020 #74
You think everything else has worked out so well for the last 400 years? ancianita May 2020 #76
are you for real? Skittles May 2020 #77
Are you? Seriously, what constructive idea do you offer for solving black people's problems? ancianita May 2020 #79
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