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patrice

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30. Your goal is my hope too and, being older, I believe that should happen in a step-wise FOREVER

Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:14 PM

Sep 2012

ongoing PROACTIVE process. My reason for that has to do with the authentic nature of a movement, as you said, it's "... not just about students or any other (single) subgroup ...." Subgroups should have their own relatively unique sub-group identity in dynamic relationship to the WHOLE movement.

One of the principles I think about the characteristics of those relationships has to do with priorities: 1. what's the highest level of need/vulnerability + 2. what is most do-able in the most current set of conditions. Very practical stuff builds a movement if the processing is always evergreen self-study, the possibilities for which, inherent in "the horizontal process", are part of what attracted me to the Occupy in the first place.

Perhaps you have heard of this book; it was part of my master's thesis:

http://books.google.com/books/about/Pedagogy_of_the_Oppressed.html?id=xfFXFD414ioC

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Occupy Wall Street and the Personal Debt Crisis [View all] Time for change Sep 2012 OP

So... greytdemocrat Sep 2012 #1

I have been around our Occupy from the beginning and have never heard anyone propose that. patrice Sep 2012 #4

Now tama Sep 2012 #9

Do you mean student loan forgiveness? patrice Sep 2012 #25

It's an open discussion tama Sep 2012 #28

Your goal is my hope too and, being older, I believe that should happen in a step-wise FOREVER patrice Sep 2012 #30

Ah, Freire! tama Sep 2012 #40

Or, do you mean Occupy Our Homes? patrice Sep 2012 #27

Hmm tama Sep 2012 #29

Goodness! Something else that I have been saying for a while, TTE, "Our culture isn't patrice Sep 2012 #31

One of my favourite maxims: tama Sep 2012 #42

Were you in NYC, Zuccoti Park, Chicago? sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #34

So... me b zola Sep 2012 #5

Yes I did. greytdemocrat Sep 2012 #7

Save you anger tama Sep 2012 #10

+infinity antiquie Sep 2012 #20

Thank you. woo me with science Sep 2012 #22

That is what happens. These extrapolated entities create/define the promises, break them at will & patrice Sep 2012 #32

I couldn't agree with you more! Raksha Sep 2012 #43

Wow! So students are a bunch of scum now on DU?? sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #35

This is funny MFrohike Sep 2012 #47

Ah, so you are intentionally misrepresenting the article. me b zola Sep 2012 #48

Nice Teabagger talking points. girl gone mad Sep 2012 #57

It's not that simple Time for change Sep 2012 #6

Would you like someone to help you understand what this is all about, and what OWS sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #45

I prefer Upton Sinclair's explanation for the seemingly "lost" behavior... backscatter712 Sep 2012 #55

Lol, so true! n/t sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #56

Concern noted, troll. n/t backscatter712 Sep 2012 #50

I am pleased to say that this has been my instinct. Ever since the Derivative Crash & listening to patrice Sep 2012 #2

Do you find people are interested? DemReadingDU Sep 2012 #11

I look for the right social situations and even the most slightly appropriate verbal cues. patrice Sep 2012 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #3

Thank you for this post. nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #8

Occupy Wall Street 2.0: The Debt Resistors� Operations Manual DemReadingDU Sep 2012 #12

Nice addition to the conversation PuraVidaDreamin Sep 2012 #18

Interesting Time for change Sep 2012 #21

Excellent post, thank you! sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #36

Awesome! Thanks for the link! n/t backscatter712 Sep 2012 #49

What Occupy should be aiming at is the financial dismantling of the law enforcement system Zalatix Sep 2012 #13

I can't believe... greytdemocrat Sep 2012 #14

Then you most certainly won't believe this! Zalatix Sep 2012 #17

Neither can I. I just read in this thread, eg, that students are a bunch of scum. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #38

Amen. Why the fuck are these "progressives" tolerated on DU? backscatter712 Sep 2012 #51

True, which is why most of the actual Progressive Dems don't bother posting about OWS sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #52

Not a bad idea per se tama Sep 2012 #23

Excellent point Time for change Sep 2012 #24

Yes, I agree. Paying for a civilian force that is meant to protect and serve the sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #37

MAFIA BASED CAPITALISM ! ! ! ! ! ! PuraVidaDreamin Sep 2012 #15

oh and K & R PuraVidaDreamin Sep 2012 #16

Over the last few years, the more I learn the more I realize Time for change Sep 2012 #33

Me too. And it is not the first time I've seen it described as similar to the Mafia. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #41

K&R. n/t DLevine Sep 2012 #19

Excellent post, thank you. They should stage a 'burn your credit card' protest sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #39

Thank you for another excellent post, Time for change. Raksha Sep 2012 #44

Debt = Indentured Servitude Zorra Sep 2012 #46

There's an occupy action monday on wall street. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #53

And lots of supporting actions across the country. n/t backscatter712 Sep 2012 #54

For profit debtors prisons? n/t Smickey Sep 2012 #58