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In reply to the discussion: France: Yet another nation turns against globalism: 80% see it as a job-killer [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)high tariffs. And only far-right political parties that promote tariffs today. Kind of shoots a whole in that argument, unless republicans and far-right wingers are now the parties of the working class.
Do you think that ANY person in America wants to see their job move out of the country? Yes or no.
No person wants his or her job to move out of their city, state or country. Is that clear enough for you? Neither do they want their job eliminated because people in another country stop buying what they make.
1) If a job moves from Ohio to Alabama you don't need a PASSPORT to move to Alabama to pursue that job.
No but I do need to uproot myself and my family to follow a job to a lower-wage, right-to-work state. I guess that makes it OK with you. "Hey, you can always move to Alabama if your union is broken by right-to-work competition." Thanks. But, no thanks.
2) You don't need to go through an IMMIGRATION PROCESS to move from Ohio to Alabama to pursue that job.
You're starting to sound like one of those "open borders" liberals. Be careful. So if I don't need to go through an immigration process for a job in Canada or Germany (the kind of deal that Europeans have with each other) then 'free trade' would be OK? Starting to sound like a European liberal now. Go slow.
3) The Federal Government could, feasibly, do away with right to work laws in Alabama. If the job moves to China, you can't do that.
Don't be surprised if I don't hold my breath waiting for the federal government to do anything about right-to-work laws. Haven't seen a whole lot of movement (or even talk in congress) on that front. Alabama will continue to take more jobs from Ohio than China does.
That's the problem with your argument - you have ZERO ability to adapt to the changing times.
Europeans have plenty of 'free trade' and 'open borders' and they have societies that are much more progressive than ours. European have adapted quite well to changing times. We should do the same.
Conversely, you have ZERO ability to admit that your tariff policy has been tried before and failed. High tariffs are not a new idea. Republicans are the only party to try which should tell you that the interests of the working class are not served by it. If you want to ignore history because "times are different now" and "nothing that has happened before can teach me anything", then go right ahead. Maybe tariffs will serve the interests of the working class for the first time.
I believe that Pew is a reputable polling organization. I'm not sure if you don't believe any of their polls or just those you don't agree with. Either way I will use Pew polls and you can use the world-renowned polls from the Alliance of American Manufacturing.