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Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
49. I seriously doubt you're going to provide me with news about bikes
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:40 PM
Sep 2012

I've been riding non-stop since I was a kid and I'm no spring chicken. And no, kids don't go "20 mph or faster" on bikes. At my age I average 18 mph on around 50 miles per week and I'm going a helluva lot faster than a grammar school kid on a Huffy. This is on a dedicated road bike and NOT through neighborhoods. Cyclists who are world class athletes are doing good to average 25 mph, and again this is NOT through neighborhoods. If you think 8 year olds are typically going "20 mph or faster" on their Schwin through residential neighborhoods, then you have a very poor understanding of biking in general. An adult on a road bike in good shape will typically average between 15-20 mph on improved side roads (not neighborhood roads). Adults in less than optimum shape on a hybrid or mountain bike will typically average 10mph or less and young kids on single speed bikes average slower than that. Furthermore there's plenty of stupidity to go around with bikes as well which is a different subject. Many don't wear helmets. Many ride on sidewalks because their parents tell them it's "safer" than being on the street. It isn't. And the reason has little to do with pedestrian traffic. There are plenty of multi-use paths which were specifically designed for pedestrians and bikes that aren't much different than sidewalks as far as width goes. The biggest reason is because when you start traveling faster down a path where car drivers aren't expecting you to be, accidents are the predictable result.

Kids riding bikes on sidewalks and breaking other traffic laws is also illegal and monumentally stupid, but I don't call the cops on them because at least I have a decent chance of seeing and avoiding them. Several models of battery powered stand up scooters are capable of 20mph and faster and they have no problem achieving this speed in residential neighborhoods. This is on level ground and they are just as quiet, if not more so, than bikes. Some gas motorized stand up scooters can go faster than 30mph. Sit down scooters(mopeds) and small motorcycles can go 50-60mph. There's no way this compares to a kid on a Schwin. And it's not as if they are obeying traffic laws so speed is not the only issue. They ride up and down driveways, sidewalks, rarely wear protective gear, never signal turns, rarely stop at stop signs, and rarely yield the right of way. In short, they do the same stupid things kids do on bikes, except they are going an order of magnitude faster. That's why riding unlicensed, uninspected motorized vehicles by unlicensed drivers on public roads is illegal in most municipalities.

As far as my neighbors go, I'm already very outgoing. I know roughly 30 families in my neighborhood on more than just a casual basis. This is because I do a lot of volunteer work at the school and because our neighborhood has two block parties each year which I almost always participate. So I already am very engaging with my neighbors, but most of them just don't care to reciprocate which is fine by me, but I really don't feel this is my fault.

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That's insane. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #1
I think there was a problem between Ms. Cooper and her neighbor. madaboutharry Sep 2012 #2
I think you're right Warpy Sep 2012 #3
I'm thinking you got it right! Must have been maddening! WinkyDink Sep 2012 #5
I'm going to guess perhaps because motorized vehicles on a public street Lionessa Sep 2012 #9
That's exactly it. Texas requires them to be registered, inspected, and the operator licensed Major Nikon Sep 2012 #19
You pissed me off just saying it Egnever Sep 2012 #28
So it's too much to ask for people to follow the law? Major Nikon Sep 2012 #34
Considering that you live in a cul-de-sac with no trafiic by your own admission Egnever Sep 2012 #38
Wow! You're a real Sherlock Holmes! Major Nikon Sep 2012 #39
And what of pedestrians? strategery blunder Sep 2012 #40
What if a man in a clown suit was walking backwards down the sidewalk with a corncob up his ass? Major Nikon Sep 2012 #45
I've got news for you... strategery blunder Sep 2012 #47
I seriously doubt you're going to provide me with news about bikes Major Nikon Sep 2012 #49
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #41
Dangerous parenting = pissed off neighbors. boppers Sep 2012 #31
my nieghbor rides his motorcycle with his 3 year old daughter riding with no helmet DonRedwood Sep 2012 #46
We had a neighbor kid who rode one of those into a mailbox proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #48
I have a problem with any parent who lets their kids ride these things on the streets Major Nikon Sep 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #4
I grew up in America but Betsy Ross Sep 2012 #6
Yah, me niether. darkangel218 Sep 2012 #8
Crime is down gollygee Sep 2012 #10
I doubt thats true. How can crime be down? darkangel218 Sep 2012 #11
I guess you were right. darkangel218 Sep 2012 #12
I think what happens today is we hear about it sooo much, makes it seem RKP5637 Sep 2012 #15
Before the early 1980's, there was very little attention paid to crimes against children alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #21
Lindbergh baby. boppers Sep 2012 #30
Yes, but you see how that's different from the way we imagine child abduction today alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #36
In the 1950's my sister and I walking home from church were confronted by a man angstlessk Sep 2012 #18
I grew up much the same in the U.S., as did my daughter.... mike_c Sep 2012 #7
I grew up in rural Minnesota and I walked to Kindergarten, too. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #27
I walked to school by myself at age 5, too. TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #29
So pretty much here was the same too decades ago, darkangel218 Sep 2012 #35
being a kid in the US these days must really suck blueamy66 Sep 2012 #13
Cul-de-sacs are like a box canyon if you live in the turnaround.. Tikki Sep 2012 #14
I lived on one, never would again. Nothing passed by, it stayed trapped RKP5637 Sep 2012 #16
I live in one and love it Major Nikon Sep 2012 #22
Same here. Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #24
Same Here The River Sep 2012 #25
That'll teach her to let her kids get exercise. Dash87 Sep 2012 #17
Not sure how much exercise they were getting on a motorized scooter Major Nikon Sep 2012 #20
We have become a nation of frightened idiots. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #26
It becomes clearer every day. Egnever Sep 2012 #32
What a sad, fearful world we live in. MadHound Sep 2012 #33
WTF? Is there something more to this story? octothorpe Sep 2012 #37
The difference between now and "the good old days" is that back then hedgehog Sep 2012 #42
More info: jsr Sep 2012 #43
they didn't arrest her for letting her kids play outside. stupid headline. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #44
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