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Hortensis

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68. Roosevelt himself did. He wasn't a terribly inspiring candidate.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jun 2020

He ran on fairly boilerplate need for and promises of change in the midst of conservative-created disaster, but nothing like what his administration ultimately achieved.

But, after all, the electorate gave Democrats control of the presidency and both houses of congress (for the next 12 years!), and with that power -- and with the great people who answered the call of their government to serve, what's attributed to FDR happened. Most of the big opposition came through the courts; there was no McConnell, so to speak, keeping his knee on the neck of congress.

I believe if we have the same power for 8 years we will achieve great things and for much the same big reasons: as then, the nation NEEDS it desperately now and is calling for it -- both necessary advances to catch up with and anticipate needs and the opportunity to use the requirement to fix what's broken to rebuild even better. And because we have the same kind of people to do it now as we had then.

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Experience, compassion and guts Pantagruel Jun 2020 #1
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Yes. He really CAN hire The Best People, Ron Green Jun 2020 #6
Backhanded compliments. BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #3
Looks Like He's Choosing The Lesser Of Two Weevils. jayfish Jun 2020 #8
I'm not a fanboi, that's true, but I respect his Ron Green Jun 2020 #10
So do I ibegurpard Jun 2020 #65
Here's a little proverb to learn: "Democracy is not a spectator sport" struggle4progress Jun 2020 #5
That's a proverb I learned quite well Ron Green Jun 2020 #9
Elections matter a lot. But it's not only about who gets elected. Most of the hard work struggle4progress Jun 2020 #11
Yes! And it's not just about partisanship, Ron Green Jun 2020 #12
That is why I want him to pick Elizabeth Warren as VP running mate. BComplex Jun 2020 #7
Carter won a close election in 1976 despite Watergate NewJeffCT Jun 2020 #13
Good analysis. He was way ahead on fossil fuels and Ron Green Jun 2020 #18
Without a Democratic Senate Leader to back Joe, it won't matter. sop Jun 2020 #14
He is indeed a mensch. That is such a contrast to the coward in chief Walleye Jun 2020 #15
Damning with faint praise. Biden will be better than you think. redstateblues Jun 2020 #16
I agree PatSeg Jun 2020 #72
What faint praise. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #17
Maybe I'm wrong about that. Several stories from December 11 Ron Green Jun 2020 #20
Nooo it's clear as hell to us. Two full terms. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #24
So do you think Joe has the transformative vision we need Ron Green Jun 2020 #30
You just want to argue a stupid not happening point. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #32
I'm not going to wallow around that low bar that Trump has given us. Ron Green Jun 2020 #39
status quo ? lol . repeating these lines does not make a revolutionary JI7 Jun 2020 #67
I'll take it ibegurpard Jun 2020 #22
What one term? LakeArenal Jun 2020 #25
No ibegurpard Jun 2020 #34
That is so insulting. If you can't vote for good over evil ....then LakeArenal Jun 2020 #38
+, I give no credit to people who still want to do the lesser evil bs JI7 Jun 2020 #43
Thanks. They are insulting too. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #44
Biden has already indicated... KBlagburn Jun 2020 #58
Link to that? No president runs to be a lame duck. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #63
That was a rough endorsement lame54 Jun 2020 #19
It's not an endorsement. Ron Green Jun 2020 #21
Sooo Joe who's had a strong base since day one LakeArenal Jun 2020 #29
I supported Bernie Sanders in 2016, and again this cycle was pleased Ron Green Jun 2020 #48
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Perhaps not the president we want ibegurpard Jun 2020 #23
Speaking for yourself with that royal we? LakeArenal Jun 2020 #31
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Biden is love. McCamy Taylor Jun 2020 #26
I'm beginning to adopt that same idea. It may be a real feature, not a bug... LAS14 Jun 2020 #27
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Glad you're more enthusiastic, even if I don't share your reasons. Hortensis Jun 2020 #33
Whatever works ibegurpard Jun 2020 #35
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. However, I'm not comparing Biden to Carter. Ron Green Jun 2020 #37
:) Carter set a new, inspiring standard of continued service Hortensis Jun 2020 #45
Damn it I hope not...because we had 12 years of GOP presidents...Reagan and Bush. Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #47
Roosevelt himself did. He wasn't a terribly inspiring candidate. Hortensis Jun 2020 #68
Hortensis I have been thinking the same. Roosevelt was disliked by the left. Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #74
:) The far left quarrels with everyone, including each other. Hortensis Jun 2020 #75
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So you give white Republicans a pass ? how the fuck do we get change if they keep voting JI7 Jun 2020 #52
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this reminds me of the avocado toast , yoga, meditation, social media JI7 Jun 2020 #49
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Agreed... although I'm still amazed at the number of Trump yard signs and Ron Green Jun 2020 #73
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