General Wesley Clark on MSNBC. He gets it.

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32. to add

on the official john Kerry board back then,while I was a Bob Graham fan(hence my name), the slimy Edwards groupies got all the Wes Clark people and everyone else who wasn't an Edwards groupie suspended during the time. While in the end it didn't matter as the board was somewhat hidden unbeknownst to the posters (2004 was still early in the computer era for instant response), voices were silenced so that it seemed like a stampede for Edwards.
Edwards turned out to be the slime and not who he proported to be, as most anti-Edward people knew he was. And the day Kerry picked him for VP, in Kerry's own eyes one knew Kerry felt he would not win. Edwards was like the rpubs at this years repub convention, shamelessly promoting himself over Kerry.

Clark would have made a fine VP choice compared to Edwards. And same with any other position he might have gotten.

SOS for Hillary in 2016 and 2020 would not be a bad idea.

and yes, had Wes started a little bit earlier, and entered Iowa, the results just might have been different, very different. I do believe even if Wes hadn't won the primary, his being in Iowa would have led to a different candidate in 2004.

The funny part about that race is, in retrospect, had Kerry picked Wes as his VP, the whole swiftboat bullshit would not have worked, Wes could have hit it out of the park on that issue.