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In reply to the discussion: United States has lost 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000 [View all]treestar
(82,383 posts)36. It is nutty to claim there is no middle class
And your first paragraph describes the people I know of. They are teachers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, salespeople, etc.
My grandfathers were blue collar and they did OK, but their kids did better - going into sales, management, nursing, teaching, law - they went to college and it is typical of the American story - the immigrant generation worked in blue collar jobs, and their descendants are professionals.
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United States has lost 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000 [View all]
FreakinDJ
Jan 2012
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Treestar - why is poverty in the USA at the highest level since they started keeping records 50 year
FreakinDJ
Jan 2012
#5
Maybe people *like* to live in poverty? Ever think of that? There's a lot more here than meets the
Romulox
Jan 2012
#18
Again treestar, FACTS. What *actually* happened is key. Not what you imagine *might* happen.
Romulox
Jan 2012
#79
Because history has said so. What is your problem with people having good paying jobs, anyway?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#95
60% of all Global Trade is "Inter-Corporation" Transfers used for Tax Avoidence
FreakinDJ
Jan 2012
#78
"Obviously not sold in China (there may be Christians there, but the are persecuted)"
Occulus
Jan 2012
#94
Blue-collar manufacturing workers are more likely to sustain repetitive-motion, muscle, and
Occulus
Jan 2012
#98
Your teacher, doctor, lawyer, accountant and salespeople friends got those jobs without college
Brickbat
Jan 2012
#40
Reality matters, treestar. These jobs *could* be replaced with something better, BUT THEY HAVEN'T
Romulox
Jan 2012
#17
FACTS, treestar. What *actually* is happening, not your imagination: "This could be happening..."
Romulox
Jan 2012
#80
How do you explain the fact that we've replaced high paying manufacturing jobs with low paying crap?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#97
Every developed country has seen manufacturing decline. Several have it worse than the US.
pampango
Jan 2012
#8
And our gilded-age leve inequality, childhood poverty, worst social mobility in the developed world?
Romulox
Jan 2012
#20
Are caused by slashing the safety net, eliminating progressive taxes, weakening unions and
pampango
Jan 2012
#83
Nonsense. You have no proof for that whatever. It's just a convenient excuse. nt
Romulox
Jan 2012
#86
Great news! Is this the result of the Free Trade Agreements with South Korea, Columbia, and Panama?
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#53
It's more likely the result of unreliable reporting and propaganda. It's inherently incredible.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#59
Increased exports does not mean that manufacturing jobs are being added in a signifigant way.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#72
His trade policies? = "Free Trade" with South Korea, Columbia, and Panama.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#74
Again, the effects of trade vary with the monetary policy and trade agreement behind it
bhikkhu
Jan 2012
#75
You understand that our trade with "free trade" countries is much more equal than with
pampango
Jan 2012
#76
You understand what a "deficit" is, yes? It means more came in then went out, irrespective of "free
Romulox
Jan 2012
#82
They're still UNSUSTAINABLE, pampango. Do you have any background in economics?
Romulox
Jan 2012
#90
Um, pampango? Not much of a "discusser", are you? You avoided my questions like the plague!
Romulox
Jan 2012
#81
32% of 10% left by 2000 is still alot - the damage was done and continued and continues
2Design
Jan 2012
#10
Remember: we MUST re-elect the signor of the "free trade" with Korea deal. MUST! nt
Romulox
Jan 2012
#19
Agreed, but after Bush negotiated the Free Trade Agreements with South Korea, Columbia, and Panama,
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#54
just wait a little longer - all the benefits of NAFTA and GATT and all the other free trade deals
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#51
Sooner or later, the top politicians are going to run out of countries to free-trade with.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#56