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rhett o rick

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23. I believe that is a logical fallacy. You assume the President is pro-education and pro-teacher

Reply to Whisp (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:50 AM

Sep 2012

and then tell us to rationalize and justify from there. Whould it be more logical to determine how the President stands based on his actions? Besides every politician claims to be pro-education. Some just think it would be better to privatize.

And what was that business about people here using the words of Ryan. What does that have to do with this issue?

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Does anyone believe that Arne Duncan and President Obama were "neutral" on the teachers strike? [View all] Teamster Jeff Sep 2012 OP

It was a local issue that lasted less than a week. tjdee Sep 2012 #1

Wishful thinking tama Sep 2012 #2

A leader of my party better never be neutral Union Scribe Sep 2012 #5

I totally agree with you. "Neutral" on labor issues is unacceptable for a Democratic candidate, Raksha Sep 2012 #19

Right here. Brickbat Sep 2012 #32

I guess they were neutral in that they didn't intercede one way or the other Teamster Jeff Sep 2012 #7

Yes, that's more what I meant.nt tjdee Sep 2012 #28

It's not over yet and it's definitely a national issue. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #10

Not only national tama Sep 2012 #12

They were only neutral becasue of the election and then maybe not so behind the scenes... kickysnana Sep 2012 #17

Whooow! THis is an extremely important national issue. And it is very important rhett o rick Sep 2012 #24

As of today it's still going on. rhett o rick Sep 2012 #35

This is not a weeklong, or as is happening right now, going into a second week, issue sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #36

teachers fighting back makes it harder to privatize & profitize education nt msongs Sep 2012 #3

Of course it does. But should teachers have to fight senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #6

The way you frame it tama Sep 2012 #14

No I don't ibegurpard Sep 2012 #4

At the AFT convention in July, when Joe Biden spoke, proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #8

No. Obama's education policy was made in chicago, arne duncan put ren 2010 in place & rahm HiPointDem Sep 2012 #9

I have a slightly different take on it. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #11

indeed ibegurpard Sep 2012 #13

How and by whom was the "ed reform movement" put on notice? nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #20

The successful CTU strike. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #21

I certainly hope you are right. But I think I have good reason to be skeptical over what has rhett o rick Sep 2012 #29

the President is not anti-education or anti-teachers Whisp Sep 2012 #15

I believe that is a logical fallacy. You assume the President is pro-education and pro-teacher rhett o rick Sep 2012 #23

The New Democrats really want to be the New Republicans. Marr Sep 2012 #16

"Neutral" is the wrong position. Deep13 Sep 2012 #18

Someone told Rahmto settle it...one way or the other... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #22

"Neutral"? Certainly not - simply silent. Obama couldn't come out as openly anti-union Edweird Sep 2012 #25

This is a national issue because this "evaluation" system is designed to end free public education Riley18 Sep 2012 #26

Some will say you are looking for a pony. mmonk Sep 2012 #27

What does that mean? Pony Teamster Jeff Sep 2012 #30

A traditionally progressive position. mmonk Sep 2012 #31

Got it. Thank you n/t Teamster Jeff Sep 2012 #33

This lunch is on me, the price you've paid is high enough already kenny blankenship Sep 2012 #34