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Shell_Seas

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6. It felt like we took a lot of steps back when Trump got elected.

Reply to StarfishSaver (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 10:04 AM

Jun 2020

But this step by step process is too slow, if police officers are still killing unarmed black men.

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I'm so sad after this conversation I had with an older black relative. [View all] Shell_Seas Jun 2020 OP

Not just oder generations Archetypist Jun 2020 #1

The protests by themselves will not change anything. Squinch Jun 2020 #2

I agree. Voting is what brings about change. Blue_true Jun 2020 #21

I agree, but I do think there is something different about this one. There is a lot Squinch Jun 2020 #44

I have noticed something about the current protests that I have Blue_true Jun 2020 #47

400 years of history say different. n/t 5X Jun 2020 #3

When was the last meaningful progress toward civil and equal rights for persons of color? PTWB Jun 2020 #4

Progress takes place step by step, not in huge strides. Often it's not noticeable until we look back StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #5

It felt like we took a lot of steps back when Trump got elected. Shell_Seas Jun 2020 #6

Yes, we did take a lot of steps back StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #8

God, I miss Obama so much. Shell_Seas Jun 2020 #9

It does require major steps this time. No small steps. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #41

That's crap. Anyone who accepts a timetable for equality and civil rights is no ally of mine. PTWB Jun 2020 #11

No, it is not crap StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #12

That doesn't mesh with what I've seen. PTWB Jun 2020 #13

Starfish is correct EffieBlack Jun 2020 #14

I'm well aware of the history. PTWB Jun 2020 #16

You don't seem to be well aware of it. EffieBlack Jun 2020 #17

No, I am not. PTWB Jun 2020 #18

Believing that immediate action is warranted and disagreeing about what form that action should take EffieBlack Jun 2020 #19

No one is arguing change must (or even can) occur immediately. PTWB Jun 2020 #22

That's EXACTLY what you were arguing! StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #27

I'm not sure if you're deliberately missing the point or what, but that isn't at all my argument. PTWB Jun 2020 #30

I quoted you verbatim StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #31

You quoted me and then spun it into something I did not say. PTWB Jun 2020 #32

"White moderates" have a place at the table during the collective Blue_true Jun 2020 #38

I just can't ever prioritize property over the lives of unarmed black men. PTWB Jun 2020 #42

Who prioritized property over the lives of innocent Blacks. Blue_true Jun 2020 #45

I strongly disagree. PTWB Jun 2020 #49

Organizing and voting is not asking "nicely". Blue_true Jun 2020 #53

I have no problem with attacking the system from both ends PTWB Jun 2020 #54

I don't think that destroying the only places that provide Blue_true Jun 2020 #36

I disagree. PTWB Jun 2020 #37

I can't disagree with you more. Blue_true Jun 2020 #43

Hi Effie. Haven't seen you around much. Blue_true Jun 2020 #29

Hi EffieBlack Jun 2020 #33

Hang in there, you seem to know the path forward. Blue_true Jun 2020 #39

+1000 Efilroft Sul Jun 2020 #15

You have to remember ... I saw a poll on DU a while back about everone's age Shell_Seas Jun 2020 #25

Excellent analysis. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #26

It is constantly happening. Blue_true Jun 2020 #24

We have to see policy changes first, not just mood changes uponit7771 Jun 2020 #7

How can that happen in a state like Texas? Shell_Seas Jun 2020 #10

Every society needs a police force. Blue_true Jun 2020 #20

The only way it would change is if we outlawed having white police. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #23

That is not a "good" solution at all. Blue_true Jun 2020 #46

I didn't say it was a good solution SoonerPride Jun 2020 #48

So we make it clear that if they let their personal feelings enter Blue_true Jun 2020 #52

Listen to your old black relative, he's right. They may sugarcoat it, but in the demosincebirth Jun 2020 #28

He's far too young to be a foolish, defeated old man. He's witnessed Hortensis Jun 2020 #34

It will change when these people start going to jail. kentuck Jun 2020 #35

There are some that will not do anything. He is one of them. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #40

There are people that are just complainers. Blue_true Jun 2020 #50

I've known a few of those. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #55

Maybe... zak247 Jun 2020 #51