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61. That a Trans woman or a Trans man are the gender that they identify as, and

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Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:14 PM

Jun 2020

that science supports that alignment.

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LGBT orgs are speaking out about JK Rowlings [View all] FreeState Jun 2020 OP

K&R Jamastiene Jun 2020 #1

Maybe her words weren't sensitive, but I don't see anything hateful. Beakybird Jun 2020 #2

This is the first that I have heard about her having such issues. Blue_true Jun 2020 #21

She has repeatedly said that trans women aren't real women sweetloukillbot Jun 2020 #25

Her view is stupid. A person's gender is how they are born at birth. Blue_true Jun 2020 #56

What are you trying to say here? PTWB Jun 2020 #60

That a Trans woman or a Trans man are the gender that they identify as, and Blue_true Jun 2020 #61

I'd like you to source that. PTWB Jun 2020 #63

This is part of a broader issue related to the gender self-recognition act janterry Jun 2020 #29

There's more to it than simply "self-declaring." yardwork Jun 2020 #49

In fact rusty fender Jun 2020 #58

"Destroying Title IX" is a very strong statement. yardwork Jun 2020 #64

Allowing biological males rusty fender Jun 2020 #70

The term "biological males" is problematic. yardwork Jun 2020 #72

How so? rusty fender Jun 2020 #76

Not everybody fits into these neat categories. yardwork Jun 2020 #77

Correct rusty fender Jun 2020 #79

And The More RobinA Jun 2020 #102

Absolutely rusty fender Jun 2020 #103

I can solve this problem: get rid of competitive sports in high school and college. hunter Jun 2020 #85

That would definitely solve it rusty fender Jun 2020 #97

Is this alarmist propaganda or is this legitimate? PTWB Jun 2020 #65

To me, it sounds like the same type of alarmist propaganda behind bathroom bills. yardwork Jun 2020 #66

Absolutely rusty fender Jun 2020 #67

Actually Happened In CT ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #87

What do you say it "means to be a woman"? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #69

Thanks for the context and the link Blasphemer Jun 2020 #71

Rowling has been making transphobic comments on social media for years. yardwork Jun 2020 #37

She's got priors. (n/t) Iggo Jun 2020 #84

She says right in her post she supports trans people ... PTWB Jun 2020 #3

Did you miss the last tweet in my post? FreeState Jun 2020 #5

So do you conclude that she is a homophobic and a liar when she says she Doodley Jun 2020 #10

There are many people that are transphobic FreeState Jun 2020 #14

Mostly When RobinA Jun 2020 #104

I know and love trans people... PTWB Jun 2020 #11

Not if you say that after something extremely transphobic n/t FreeState Jun 2020 #16

How is, to paraphrase, saying sex is real and it is important to women around the world, "extremely Doodley Jun 2020 #18

It's in the OP FreeState Jun 2020 #20

It is not in the OP. PTWB Jun 2020 #22

When you say that people who menstruate are called women, Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #26

Why Can't We Have RobinA Jun 2020 #105

Are you willing to declare yourself a cis-woman every time you declare your gender? Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #110

The last few weeks have been instructive on this and other areas Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #38

Thank you for your posts and support. yardwork Jun 2020 #47

In a way, I blame myself as a pebble that instead of speaking up, just left Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #50

We are definitely a sad shell of our former community. yardwork Jun 2020 #51

"She says right in her post she supports trans people." Apparently her words don't matter. Oh hang Doodley Jun 2020 #13

She Doesn't Mean RobinA Jun 2020 #107

This isn't her only controversy JonLP24 Jun 2020 #98

I will wait until she responds to these allegations Miigwech Jun 2020 #4

No need to hold your fire. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #27

Explain why her quote is "bigoted nonsense." Which part is "bigoted nonsense?" Doodley Jun 2020 #30

She's referring to a woman who said she doesn't believe it's possible to change genders and WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #53

The woman wasn't fired sweetloukillbot Jun 2020 #57

Okay. But yes, misgendering is bigoted and supporting it is also bigoted. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #68

Do you mean Maya Forstater? janterry Jun 2020 #74

This has been an ongoing issue with her for several years Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #39

Confusing sex and gender for the win JK Buzz cook Jun 2020 #6

She's a TERFy mess. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #7

Why not take her words in good faith, instead of looking for the worst possible Doodley Jun 2020 #8

So all these LGBT organizations are wrong? FreeState Jun 2020 #9

Yes, they are wrong to say what she does or doesn't believe, and why would organizations Doodley Jun 2020 #12

They quoted her words n/t FreeState Jun 2020 #15

I will ask again, why would your opinion of JK Rowling be shaped by organizations? Doodley Jun 2020 #17

Excuse me? My opinion of her statement is formed by FreeState Jun 2020 #19

JK Rowling has been targeted for years, first for not making any characters Doodley Jun 2020 #33

That's complete nonsense. It just is. yardwork Jun 2020 #48

Let's not deal in facts. Doodley Jun 2020 #90

There is no wiggle room in the interpretation; Rowling is a transphobic bigot Tarc Jun 2020 #73

I grew up having a narrow definition of gender drilled into my head. Blue_true Jun 2020 #23

See post 29 in this thread. Rowling's statements are not random. yardwork Jun 2020 #52

What is her mission? Maybe explaining that more thoroughly would help a lot of people Blue_true Jun 2020 #54

Did you read post 29 in this thread? It's clear, I think. yardwork Jun 2020 #55

I hadn't read post 29. But your second paragraph in the post you Blue_true Jun 2020 #59

She lost good faith after the first couple of years of doing this Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #40

The lived reality of women globally is not erased by Trans relationships njhoneybadger Jun 2020 #24

But she has never said she objects to trans relationships. In fact, she has embraced all Doodley Jun 2020 #32

There are two kinds of people MurrayDelph Jun 2020 #28

Well put. If denial means non-denial, then we are all at risk of being accused. Doodley Jun 2020 #31

People either believe in the liberal principles of equality for all Hortensis Jun 2020 #34

Agreed 100% and JK Rowling has made it clear that she shares those same values. Doodley Jun 2020 #35

Okay. I wouldn't know and don't care. She has the right to speak, Hortensis Jun 2020 #36

I wish I could say I am surprised by this thead dsc Jun 2020 #41

Human Rights Campaign Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #42

Medium: JK Rowling Confirms Stance Against Transgender Women Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #43

The Mary Sue: J.K. Rowling Leaves Little Doubt About Her TERFdom Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #44

lgbtqnation: The mysterious case of J.K. Rowling & her transphobic Twitter history Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #45

nytimes: How British Feminism Became Anti-Trans Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #46

Thanks for adding these FreeState Jun 2020 #81

And I made sure to only grab things pre-2019 so that it wasn't "just in the now" Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #96

She's been a TERF for a long time, what a worthless human being. n/t Humanist_Activist Jun 2020 #62

Who are you to judge what JK Rowling believes? She's made it very clear that a Doodley Jun 2020 #89

A thinking person, and no it is not, if she would be quiet, it would be different... Humanist_Activist Jun 2020 #94

This isn't the first time is correct JonLP24 Jun 2020 #100

"Sex and gender" aren't exclusively binary? Azathoth Jun 2020 #75

So everyone is born with a penis or a vagina FreeState Jun 2020 #82

So if you are a trans person, or a non-binary person Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #83

If such criticism pushes people to the right, then they were already there. n/t Humanist_Activist Jun 2020 #95

honestly BGBD Jun 2020 #78

Do you feel that celebrities' racist statements are similarly unimportant? yardwork Jun 2020 #80

yes BGBD Jun 2020 #86

She's simply another target to hate. A few weeks ago, it was Madonna's son because he Doodley Jun 2020 #88

This is what I can't stand... BGBD Jun 2020 #92

She is not a target of hate JonLP24 Jun 2020 #99

How'd she get herself into this? treestar Jun 2020 #91

I think JK has some learning to do mvd Jun 2020 #93

Don't agree zak247 Jun 2020 #101

are you fucking kidding? obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #106

How is JK Rowling forcing her lifestyle on anyone? She has been targeted for years, starting with Doodley Jun 2020 #108

No its not okay zak247 Jun 2020 #109