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panzerfaust

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14. "... is this irreversible?" I do not know about The Church (LDS)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:48 PM

Sep 2012

But the Holy Mother Church (RC) has addressed this issue and ruled that baptism is not reversible.

This came up in connection with Catholics secretly baptizing Jewish children and then having the children taken from the parents, as Jews were not fit parents for Christians.

The last recorded instance I knew of was that of Edgardo Levi Mortara in 1858 ... but it is now alleged that the essence of the practice continued into the 1950's

... recently discovered document in which the Vatican instructed its representatives in France after World War II to prevent baptized Jewish children from being returned to their families ...
http://www.adl.org/ADL_Opinions/Holocaust/20050123-Op-ed+PBP.htm

At least The Church only is baptizing dead people - not baptizing your kids and then stealing them.

Religion is evolving. Praise the lord.

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Mormons posthumously baptized President Obama's mother as a Mormom [View all] kratos00 Sep 2012 OP

Read the article itself for an answer Xipe Totec Sep 2012 #1

That's a load of BS statement..."sometimes bypass this instruction..." joeybee12 Sep 2012 #11

Including Anne Frank (many times) and other Holocaust victims obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #48

Hmmm. How does a prankster get one of those Temple Recommends? HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #59

It is creepy, and it's also disrespectful toward the beliefs of others. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #2

Most religions say all other religions are wrong slackmaster Sep 2012 #9

About the "your religion is wrong"... NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #45

Actually, all don't say that unc70 Sep 2012 #47

Yes, LDS means Latter-Day Saint, or Mormon (eom) StevieM Sep 2012 #50

So it is "offensive" for them to believe their religion is correct? jberryhill Sep 2012 #51

So she was happily sitting on a comfy cloud, holding a harp, Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #3

Index Librorum Prohibitorum panzerfaust Sep 2012 #20

Ah, Limbo and Purgatory. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #21

So which is more offensive exboyfil Sep 2012 #4

So is that like a passport to Kolob? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #5

Probably like a bus transfer. You get only one. Make a bad transfer SDjack Sep 2012 #25

Hell has all the good musicians LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #28

Que up the attack add: Obama mother was a Mormon and his father was a anti-Colonial Muslim! FSogol Sep 2012 #6

Did Ann Dunham become a Muslim when she married Lolo Soetoro? If yes, then what are the jody Sep 2012 #7

As long as they don't interfere with the treatment of actual remains, who gives a flying fuck? slackmaster Sep 2012 #8

It may be Just Words to some rbrnmw Sep 2012 #29

It's wrong, they shouldn't do it, they've ignored requests to stop, slackmaster Sep 2012 #37

Presumably mentally competent adults getting upset over someone else 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #39

It isn't that I think it's a hex rbrnmw Sep 2012 #46

....that are nothing more than WORDS... truebrit71 Sep 2012 #53

Speaking of respect... jberryhill Sep 2012 #56

Yuck! ToxMarz Sep 2012 #10

"... is this irreversible?" I do not know about The Church (LDS) panzerfaust Sep 2012 #14

That's just rude. aquart Sep 2012 #12

Ha! For some strange reason this reminded me tavernier Sep 2012 #13

"well-meaning Church members....." Avalux Sep 2012 #15

Not as far off as one would hope. They did my ancestry when I lived and worked in Salt Lake siligut Sep 2012 #32

Well-meaning because the deceased gets a chance Mariana Sep 2012 #33

Sorry, that doesn't wash with me. Avalux Sep 2012 #41

It is offered to the deceased as a choice jberryhill Sep 2012 #57

So what ...? etherealtruth Sep 2012 #16

some muslim group ought to baptize (or whatever) George Romney. rurallib Sep 2012 #17

Highly offensive. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #18

It is supposed to be only a Mormon's ancestors? treestar Sep 2012 #19

LDS has one of the largest Genealogy databases in the world.. rsweets Sep 2012 #22

And they share it dragonlady Sep 2012 #43

I just conducted a secret ceremony and converted every living Mormon to Jewish. nt TeamPooka Sep 2012 #23

I've always thought that whole thing is weird and creepy... SoapBox Sep 2012 #24

It is weird, creepy, disrespectful, and totally meaningless to the deceased Siwsan Sep 2012 #26

Doing genealogy I found out my Grandpa was Mormon baptized too HockeyMom Sep 2012 #27

If They baptized my Evangelical Grandmother rbrnmw Sep 2012 #30

My superstition is better than your Politicalboi Sep 2012 #31

I bless all faiths which believe in Divine Substance. peace begins with me Sep 2012 #34

They *retroactively* made Obama a Mormon-by-birth, OMG eShirl Sep 2012 #35

So, I wonder if they ever baptised Mohammed? eShirl Sep 2012 #36

Jesus, too, probably. nt. Mariana Sep 2012 #38

Sound like ignorant assholes to me. Cha Sep 2012 #40

I think it's creepy. If there is a similar Muslim practice like this I would like to see Whisp Sep 2012 #42

How is this any creepier than praying for the deciest? FreeState Sep 2012 #44

Still baptizing Jewish rbrnmw Sep 2012 #49

Obama's mother posthumously calls Mormons morons. n/t librechik Sep 2012 #52

I just waved a magic wand unMormonizing them all aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #54

I humously unbaptized rMoney as an atheist. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #55

Who cares? hughee99 Sep 2012 #58

Non Christians don't have "baptism" demosincebirth Sep 2012 #60

I'd do something Obama can't (political purposes) M_M Sep 2012 #61