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karynnj

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37. I was in college when the "Paul is dead" nonsense started
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 09:19 PM
Jan 2012

I was also taking the freshman Physiology "rat lab" class. The TA for the class was very interested in the spread of urban legends, so he decided to take advantage of the fact that three students were older women (probably in their late 20s early 30s) from Bloomington.

When we arrived, we were told that ANY talking would result in a failing grade and given questions to answer - who is Paul McCartney, list 5 Beatles song - and list the last two things - true or not that you read about him. He found the women knew nothing yet about the rumors.

He then went through showing them all the things containing "clues. We all sat there knowing what they were suppose to "see" and even as he pointed various things out - ie "why do you think Paul is barefoot?" and finally playing Revolution Number 9 backward, they just looked confused. He then asked them to write what conclusion they thought from all they saw or heard - result - none came up with anything to suggest that signals were sent to imply that Paul was dead and replaced (apparently with someone left handed, who looked like him, sang like him, and wrote songs like him - because of course, there were lots of people with all four of these traits. )

I do think that the "swap" idea has had FEWER takers than the idiotic Paul rumors. (As one of the kids with a very cheap kid record player that you could manually turn backwards, I know almost everyone in my dorm played the record backwards.) In addition, rather than one DJ who started it as a prank, there have been some shameless RW media talking heads and political operatives on both sides who have proposed this nonsense.

The fact is Biden helped in 2008 and will help in 2012. In addition, he HAS been given more responsibility - even when he is given less visibility. Biden was the Obama person most active in working with Iraq. You can't get much more key than that - and he did it without anything becoming a negative issue.

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Biden and Clinton are where they are going to stay madokie Jan 2012 #1
Totally agree. nt gateley Jan 2012 #2
Indeed. This shit is just getting ridiculous. TheWraith Jan 2012 #14
Someone else posted it was thrown out there by the GOP to get the waters churning. gateley Jan 2012 #18
Actually, Robert Reich has been talking about it in his column or columns (just saw one today). CTyankee Jan 2012 #23
But I wonder where Robert Reich got it -- I think one of his columns said "I have no inside gateley Jan 2012 #27
Ok, I need to talk to my dtr tomorrow...I'll find out what's going on and PM you... CTyankee Jan 2012 #32
Not Hillary supporters. More likely the media trouble makers. juajen Jan 2012 #41
i would be royally pissed if this happened. roguevalley Jan 2012 #40
No, they are not. Beacool Jan 2012 #45
No need to do anything drastic at this point. DCBob Jan 2012 #3
Couldn't agree more. nt gateley Jan 2012 #5
"Not since 'Paul is dead' has a rumor based on so little proved as enduring" frazzled Jan 2012 #4
Bwah! I loved that! And you're right - these things take on a gateley Jan 2012 #6
There is at least one post per week on this treestar Jan 2012 #9
Yup. aquart Jan 2012 #34
I love Hillary, voted for her in the primaries- Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #7
This raises a question in my mind as to what Hillary will be doing after the election. CTyankee Jan 2012 #25
I remember her saying that. Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #44
And UFO's might visit the leprechauns jberryhill Jan 2012 #8
Stop making fun of Kucinich. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #39
Awwww... Now you done it... jberryhill Jan 2012 #42
It was a rumor manufactured by the GOP to sufrommich Jan 2012 #10
I really wondered how it started -- It could be something as gateley Jan 2012 #11
Democrat Robert Reich wrote an OpEd advocating replacing Biden with Clinton. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #21
This is manufactured poppycock from the Professional Shitstirrers (PS™) Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #12
Yes it is legal. former9thward Jan 2012 #15
Not. Gonna. Happen. DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #13
Thank you for posting this. Even Zogby knows this is a rumor. jillan Jan 2012 #16
Aren't they though? (A perfect fit). nt gateley Jan 2012 #19
There's no reason to change out Biden high density Jan 2012 #17
"Talk of it has died down" because no one was actually talking about it, gkhouston Jan 2012 #20
'Time running out'? NO-- ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #22
One of the more interesting parts of the Watergate scandal. Robb Jan 2012 #24
Question... Raine1967 Jan 2012 #29
Yep. nt Robb Jan 2012 #30
That's fascinating, I didn't remember that aspect. joshcryer Jan 2012 #31
Or, Hillary may be leaving the administration to give another hopeful a chance at heir-incumbent. moriah Jan 2012 #26
And I think Hillary might actually WANT to retire from government and work w/Bill (and gateley Jan 2012 #28
didn't she say she wouldn't serve a second term as SOS? CTyankee Jan 2012 #33
Yeah, but I honestly don't pay much attention to a lot of what they say because gateley Jan 2012 #35
As SOS, Hillary really shines, doesn't she? CTyankee Jan 2012 #38
I think she's been exceptional as SOS. gateley Jan 2012 #43
Nuclear Option among crackheads and GOP shills. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #36
I was in college when the "Paul is dead" nonsense started karynnj Jan 2012 #37
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