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4. Biden isn't saying "defund the police." Don't you fret about it.

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Mon Jun 8, 2020, 03:03 PM

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"Defund the police" Could we get better at branding, please? Here's Kurt Eichenwald's take, [View all] pnwmom Jun 2020 OP

I agree 100% Nevilledog Jun 2020 #1

That makes three of us blueinredohio Jun 2020 #2

Add me to the list. Brother Mythos Jun 2020 #23

Absolutely right. Reform the police. Demilitarize them The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #3

Yes, reform the police pattyloutwo Jun 2020 #24

Biden isn't saying "defund the police." Don't you fret about it. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #4

Don't Know Who Started It, But... Aviation91 Jun 2020 #5

The DC branch of Black Lives Matter might have been the first. pnwmom Jun 2020 #7

BLM needs to discuss that with BrightKnight Jun 2020 #32

Saving this, was going to O.P. asking for the origin. And agree here with almost all of this thread UTUSN Jun 2020 #73

This had to have been started by the wing nuts Sugarcoated Jun 2020 #6

Our messaging ability has always been horrible. Blue_true Jun 2020 #29

I think it was Black Lives Matter LeftInTX Jun 2020 #51

I agree that "defund the police" Progressive dog Jun 2020 #8

Get rid of it, quick. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #9

the hardcore activist sphere will never listen to mainstream Democrats telling them what to do Celerity Jun 2020 #58

It's badly expressed and foolish if taken literally, but I think it will work out well. gulliver Jun 2020 #10

It would be a terrible slogan for an election, and we're only 5 months away from November. pnwmom Jun 2020 #13

It's the term "Defund Police". It's the kind of self-inflicted injury we ridicule Trump Mike 03 Jun 2020 #11

Cut their budget marginally! maxsolomon Jun 2020 #12

Get rid of the excessive militarization. Blue_true Jun 2020 #27

Business calls it "restructuring." hunter Jun 2020 #14

Then maybe more thought should have gone into our phrase. Blue_true Jun 2020 #28

Why aren't Dems calling to Restructure the Police instead of Defund the Police? pnwmom Jun 2020 #33

They are..... marmar Jun 2020 #37

The "defunding the police" stuff is really dumb DIVINEprividence Jun 2020 #15

It is like "Democratic Socialism" DIVINEprividence Jun 2020 #16

Totally agreed Dopers_Greed Jun 2020 #17

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #18

self-sabotaging branding AlexSFCA Jun 2020 #19

I agree. Let's have a much better message. Pepsidog Jun 2020 #20

Totally Agree.. Cha Jun 2020 #21

Let me guess tiptonic Jun 2020 #22

Kurt Eichenwald is totally full of shit melman Jun 2020 #25

"Defund the police" is a slogan that could cost us the election. Some of us don't care about that pnwmom Jun 2020 #30

So you're saying BLM is trying to torpedo the election melman Jun 2020 #44

I'm saying they're tone deaf and the Defund the Police brand would be used against us. pnwmom Jun 2020 #45

Tone deaf! melman Jun 2020 #46

They either don't understand how that term will be understood by 90% of people pnwmom Jun 2020 #48

So they don't understand or care and you know better melman Jun 2020 #50

I know better than you do, that's clear. n/t pnwmom Jun 2020 #53

This is isn't about me melman Jun 2020 #55

You're twisting my words. That's your specialty. nt pnwmom Jun 2020 #57

I certainly am not melman Jun 2020 #60

I totally agree. "Defund the Police" is such a galactically stupid phrase. Blue_true Jun 2020 #26

Restructure, rebuild failing or failed departments but BrightKnight Jun 2020 #31

Agree with this horrible messaging superpatriotman Jun 2020 #34

Sadly very few have put for an explanation of "Defund the police", and those that try... George II Jun 2020 #35

Bravo Sen. Harris Sunsky Jun 2020 #40

And what happens when an autistic person is shot by a robber? pnwmom Jun 2020 #42

You're reaching here Sunsky Jun 2020 #52

No, I'm not. "DEFUND THE POLICE" are words with literal meanings. pnwmom Jun 2020 #54

Was your response to my post Sunsky Jun 2020 #65

I don't care what their INTENTIONS are. I care about the PLAIN MEANING of the stupid slogan. pnwmom Jun 2020 #67

I don't care Sunsky Jun 2020 #69

Yes, the bottom line is that life matters. Unfortunately, the words that you don't care about pnwmom Jun 2020 #71

The "misguided" slogan Sunsky Jun 2020 #76

+++It's an absolutely ridiculous slogan. Trump is already deliberately calling it "disband" R B Garr Jun 2020 #36

It's frustrating that so many people respond to "defund the police" or "abolish the police" WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #38

BS Sunsky Jun 2020 #39

I know what the origin is and that doesn't make the slogan smart. pnwmom Jun 2020 #41

I don't believe your figures but Sunsky Jun 2020 #63

I get what it says. pwb Jun 2020 #43

When most people hear "defund the police" that would include the county sheriff pnwmom Jun 2020 #47

So then what we have is not a messaging problem... Caliman73 Jun 2020 #56

THAT IS THE POINT. A poor, easily misunderstood slogan is a messaging problem pnwmom Jun 2020 #59

That is fine. Biden needs to run his campaign. Caliman73 Jun 2020 #61

LOL. We can't force voters to "work on their critical thinking skills." pnwmom Jun 2020 #62

OR... and this is just a stab in the dark... Caliman73 Jun 2020 #68

I think of local city police. pwb Jun 2020 #64

I don't know of any of our party leaders who are supporting that. Kaleva Jun 2020 #49

K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #66

The Republican attack ads are ready. Defund the Police superimposed over video of looters jalan48 Jun 2020 #70

+1000. nt pnwmom Jun 2020 #72

Speaking of videos melman Jun 2020 #74

Yes, those videos are awful and the police responsible should be held accountable. However, jalan48 Jun 2020 #75