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sabrina 1

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39. Americans DO NOT have free speech, we just like to pretend we do.

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:59 PM

Sep 2012

If there were any doubts about that, the past year of OWS protest with the whole world watching, proved that the US will crush anyone trying to exercise what they thought was a right if they are protesting Wall Street and our sacred system of predatory Capitalism

Just standing on the street with a sign, can get you beaten and arrested in the US if you are protesting the US' most precious institutions.

And some of the same people who will justify this suppression of free speech because they don't like OWS, will then turn around and tell you that we are fiercely protective of the right to free speech in defense of extremely bigoted hate groups.

Well it seems that the free speech of hate groups IS way more protected than that of peaceful citizens trying to draw attention to bad economic policies or any of our wars for profit.

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Occupy Oakland: Arrests may top 400; City Hall vandalized [View all] renie408 Sep 2012 OP

OWS wasn't firing RPGs, mortars and AK47s. No comparison - no disconnect. Bizarre post. leveymg Sep 2012 #1

You know, I don't think so. renie408 Sep 2012 #4

Still cannot find where the rioters were firing RPG's, mortars and AK47's. One was killed, renie408 Sep 2012 #6

In how many places did that happen jberryhill Sep 2012 #9

They are saying it because it dovetails with their already formed opinion. It saves time to renie408 Sep 2012 #12

The pluralization of single events for rhetorical purposes is pretty common jberryhill Sep 2012 #43

In Benghazi, Libya. Here's some info: leveymg Sep 2012 #21

O-kay... renie408 Sep 2012 #22

I asked you for a number jberryhill Sep 2012 #42

If I answer in the singular, Bengazhi, that should be understood as one. leveymg Sep 2012 #49

Good. Now in how many places are there protests? jberryhill Sep 2012 #53

was Occuppy now or ever engaging in hate speech? xchrom Sep 2012 #2

Wait...are you saying that their speech SHOULD be limited if they engage in hate speech? renie408 Sep 2012 #5

Speech - even in this country - is not unlimited. xchrom Sep 2012 #7

That's what I think renie408 Sep 2012 #8

I'm waiting for you to demonstrate where they were violent. Aerows Sep 2012 #25

It is OK every day to judge whether or not speech HERE is OK, renie408 Sep 2012 #3

I can tell you what isn't okay Aerows Sep 2012 #26

The hypocrisy goes without saying. People trying to overthrow regimes we don't like have HiPointDem Sep 2012 #10

The point I am trying to make is that there is enough hypocrisy to go around. renie408 Sep 2012 #15

You are trying to make a point Aerows Sep 2012 #27

i don't think so to that degree. i think there are plenty of folks willing to assign fault to both HiPointDem Sep 2012 #35

Americans DO NOT have free speech, we just like to pretend we do. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #39

At least I know what the protesters in the Middle East are protesting about frazzled Sep 2012 #11

Hey...that's a really old article. renie408 Sep 2012 #13

It happened last year Aerows Sep 2012 #34

VANDALISM??? BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #14

You are just a little too cool for me. You might have to formulate a sentence renie408 Sep 2012 #17

i dont know BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #24

I think you are just a little too cool (in your own mind) Aerows Sep 2012 #28

Because it wasn't okay for Occupy Oakland to vandalize anything! n/t Yo_Mama Sep 2012 #16

Oh yeah, you are about to start your own attack thread with that one. renie408 Sep 2012 #18

Attack thread? Aerows Sep 2012 #30

Comparing broken windows to murder? girl gone mad Sep 2012 #19

Jesus. H. Christ. renie408 Sep 2012 #20

Murders, RPG's, Mortars, oh my Aerows Sep 2012 #31

Geez. Perhaps next time concentrate on the Tea Party and their guns and racism and threats? Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #23

She's highly concerned Aerows Sep 2012 #29

:) Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #32

It's easy to be concerned about a movement Aerows Sep 2012 #33

Contradictions aren't NECESSARILY bad. That depends upon significant value traits that inher patrice Sep 2012 #36

oh my god. BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #38

k. YOU say it in fewer words, or, better yet, specify what part of it you don't understand. nt patrice Sep 2012 #40

you lost me after "Contradictions aren't NECESSARILY bad" BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #41

There's nothing in contradictions, in and of themselves, that makes ALL of them bad ALL of the time. patrice Sep 2012 #45

Colorless green ideas sleep furiously. Occulus Sep 2012 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #46

I read your posts when I see them, darkangel. You write a little like a poet, or at least that's patrice Sep 2012 #48

I'm your huckleberry Aerows Sep 2012 #37

Wow Aerows Sep 2012 #54

Protest is OK. Riots are not. Vandalizism is not. Confusious Sep 2012 #44

Agree! Personally, I think there are many many ways to protest and really PUSH the envelope hard patrice Sep 2012 #47

Spoken like someone who has never been to Oakland WilliamPitt Sep 2012 #50

I think the rioters in this case, as usual, Dash87 Sep 2012 #51

Um . . . it's the killings 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #52

Don't let rational thinking Aerows Sep 2012 #55

Now I DO think THIS IS QUITE FABULOUS! Zalatix Sep 2012 #56