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lagomorph777

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66. Seeing him with blood pouring out of his ear and walking past, proves intent.

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Fri Jun 12, 2020, 07:09 AM

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'His Brain Is Injured:' Lawyer Updates on 75-Year-Old NY Protester Shoved by Police [View all] kpete Jun 2020 OP

k&r for Martin Gugino. n/t Laelth Jun 2020 #1

I hope he has real proof from neurologists. grumpyduck Jun 2020 #2

Why wouldn't he? He was in ICU FFS. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #10

I think they mean proof that its recent trauma rather than a prior issue. cstanleytech Jun 2020 #20

There should be ample proof in the ample quantities of medical records Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #26

There are public statements by the wnylib Jun 2020 #31

And the attorneys WILL say it's pre-existing. louis-t Jun 2020 #70

He was bleeding from his ear padah513 Jun 2020 #39

Probably a basilar fracture Warpy Jun 2020 #55

He can get definite proof via different levels of MRIS and neuro syc test uponit7771 Jun 2020 #46

I hope the cop who pushed him to the ground gets prosecuted for assault and battery DFW Jun 2020 #3

attempted murder lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #9

Case would likely be lost if they tried to go that route as you would have to prove intent cstanleytech Jun 2020 #21

Seeing him with blood pouring out of his ear and walking past, proves intent. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #66

NO..... louzke9 Jun 2020 #68

I'm talking about ignoring the injury. That's intent. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #69

I suspect it will be a charge of assault and maybe elderly abuse if the cstanleytech Jun 2020 #71

Intent has to established before and or during an attack. cstanleytech Jun 2020 #73

You are correct. greymattermom Jun 2020 #65

+ agree that cop who shoved Gugino should be charged with assault. iluvtennis Jun 2020 #12

He should get prosecuted by the same standard Hav Jun 2020 #14

This!👆 SheltieLover Jun 2020 #19

+1, uponit7771 Jun 2020 #45

Not to mention the civil suit... druidity33 Jun 2020 #49

Higher standard - he's supposed to enforce laws and prevent assaults! Not commit them! Lucky Luciano Jun 2020 #50

The cop behind's instinct to force the shoving cop to walk on was one of the smarter decisions. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #17

Maybe I need to look at the video again DFW Jun 2020 #37

BS Watch again he went over to do or say something more. The guy pushed him away and he left with a Oppaloopa Jun 2020 #51

the cop who leaned over was the shover. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #57

I think I read that one who moved the other along was a supervisor. Tipperary Jun 2020 #52

I suspect that's right - Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #56

I saw 3 Leo's involved. Played in slow motion. The CO was involved OhNo-Really Jun 2020 #23

The CO was coming up from behind, Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #58

Nope. Not what I saw OhNo-Really Jun 2020 #78

The CO started out several feet behind. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #79

Here's the slow motion. OhNo-Really Jun 2020 #80

It doesn't change what I see - Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #81

Both cops involved have been charged wnylib Jun 2020 #32

For now, Corgigal Jun 2020 #36

Agree! mountain grammy Jun 2020 #38

I hope he sues the city of Buffalo for a ton of money. redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #4

No, DO NOT sue the city MagickMuffin Jun 2020 #6

Exactly. BComplex Jun 2020 #7

Yep! Agreed FakeNoose Jun 2020 #42

I agree... Pachamama Jun 2020 #76

Thanks FakeNoose Jun 2020 #82

Your welcome... Pachamama Jun 2020 #83

Can't, the city will admit he was acting as an agent of theirs otherwise he goes to jail uponit7771 Jun 2020 #44

As of now, they can't obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #67

I hope qualified immunity gets struck down IronLionZion Jun 2020 #8

NY state is working on that now, pushed on wnylib Jun 2020 #34

I had a feeling this was going to be the case. My mom fainted while we were waiting Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #5

I'm sorry that happened to your Mom. democrank Jun 2020 #47

Thank you. I appreciate that. Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #59

I'm sorry too. soldierant Jun 2020 #62

oh no... this is absolutely heartbreaking renate Jun 2020 #11

Poor man. Wishing him a full recovery. MoonRiver Jun 2020 #13

That was, unfortunately, predictable. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #15

Yup. And you can't shove a 75 yr old onto the concrete without expecting a brain injury. nt SunSeeker Jun 2020 #35

when I heard the crack as his head hit the pavement demtenjeep Jun 2020 #16

Watching the video from the other angle (across the street) you can see that... SeattleVet Jun 2020 #27

My Mother fell down some stairs and hit her head in the same spot kimbutgar Jun 2020 #18

They not only pushed him. They walked right on by . leftyladyfrommo Jun 2020 #22

Who should he sue? cilla4progress Jun 2020 #24

My mom fell in the hospital and later died from brain bleed. Alwaysna Jun 2020 #25

The cop that forcefully shoved him to the ground and then shook his head, needs some jail time. Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #28

I had something similar happen to me 5 years ago and still have aphasia today uponit7771 Jun 2020 #29

A concussion would be brain injury. The man is 75 JDC Jun 2020 #30

It was clear from the video of blood pouring from his ear that he had a brain injury. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #33

So why are tax payer dollars going warmfeet Jun 2020 #40

Good to meet another anti fascist. I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #53

Anyone who can inflict injury or death while on the job needs their own personal malpractice Cousin Dupree Jun 2020 #72

I Ingersollman Jun 2020 #75

I am hoping a MONSTER New York law firm takes his case pro bono and makes NoMoreRepugs Jun 2020 #41

I'd be amazed if he didn't cwydro Jun 2020 #43

I hope Martin Gugino fully recovers. democrank Jun 2020 #48

Murderous thug police force needs a major reckoning. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2020 #54

Massive prevalent lawsuits zak247 Jun 2020 #60

The interviewed woman was excellent. nt BootinUp Jun 2020 #61

When I saw he was bleeding from his ears I knew it was bad TexasBushwhacker Jun 2020 #63

Well now he has something in common with the president Dukkha Jun 2020 #64

I saw a video recorded from Mr. Gugino's left xxqqqzme Jun 2020 #74

Football and Hockey HockeyMom Jun 2020 #77