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Response to NNadir (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 13, 2020, 12:10 PM

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I'm not sure that FDR knew the extent of Stalin's purges when JS switched sides to ally with us against Hitler (when Hitler violated their alliance and attacked him). Remember that the two of them were poised to divvy up Europe before Hitler couldn't help himself and got greedy, despite Stalin ending up 'winning' the war against his own people in the end.

Nor do I think we could have taken on BOTH of them at the time, *and* kept on fighting the Japanese too - remember them? at the time, we were busy trying to rebuild the pacific fleet after Pearl Harbor, which thankfully spared the aircraft carriers (which weren't there to be attacked, luckily for us). the alliance with Stalin was certainly one of Hitler and Hirohito being the 'bigger enemy' at that moment in time, to be sure.

I have no disagreement that we are at 'war' with ourselves in terms of American society and it's still an open question as to who will win - cynicism, dark money and rich Whitey, or an open society that values each other as human beings, our contributions, unique perspectives and backgrounds which all build on that.

and completely agree with you on climate change, of which we are all guilty of causing. part of the reason I am a 'tree zealot' and run outside of my home office to **yell** at the McMansioneers every time I hear what I think may be a chainsaw. And serve on a local group to protect urban trees and give to every green group related to that and similar I know. I absolutely agree with you.

the 'real world' can't be the world as it is - if we were able to create climate change, nazi's and Dump - we can begin to mitigate and reverse them, too. Idealism? Sure. But the world is what we make it, and if we don't make the effort, we get the world we deserve, no?

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