HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Republican allies of conv... » Reply #34
In the discussion thread: Republican allies of convenience [View all]

Response to NNadir (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 13, 2020, 12:10 PM

34. #DumptheTurdNov3


I'm not sure that FDR knew the extent of Stalin's purges when JS switched sides to ally with us against Hitler (when Hitler violated their alliance and attacked him). Remember that the two of them were poised to divvy up Europe before Hitler couldn't help himself and got greedy, despite Stalin ending up 'winning' the war against his own people in the end.

Nor do I think we could have taken on BOTH of them at the time, *and* kept on fighting the Japanese too - remember them? at the time, we were busy trying to rebuild the pacific fleet after Pearl Harbor, which thankfully spared the aircraft carriers (which weren't there to be attacked, luckily for us). the alliance with Stalin was certainly one of Hitler and Hirohito being the 'bigger enemy' at that moment in time, to be sure.

I have no disagreement that we are at 'war' with ourselves in terms of American society and it's still an open question as to who will win - cynicism, dark money and rich Whitey, or an open society that values each other as human beings, our contributions, unique perspectives and backgrounds which all build on that.

and completely agree with you on climate change, of which we are all guilty of causing. part of the reason I am a 'tree zealot' and run outside of my home office to **yell** at the McMansioneers every time I hear what I think may be a chainsaw. And serve on a local group to protect urban trees and give to every green group related to that and similar I know. I absolutely agree with you.

the 'real world' can't be the world as it is - if we were able to create climate change, nazi's and Dump - we can begin to mitigate and reverse them, too. Idealism? Sure. But the world is what we make it, and if we don't make the effort, we get the world we deserve, no?

Reply to this post

Back to OP Alert abuse Link to post in-thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 36 replies Author Time Post
WonderGrunion Jun 2020 OP
I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #1
TheNewNumberTwo Jun 2020 #2
DownriverDem Jun 2020 #9
TheNewNumberTwo Jun 2020 #22
soldierant Jun 2020 #20
mopinko Jun 2020 #3
Solomon Jun 2020 #29
mopinko Jun 2020 #30
OnDoutside Jun 2020 #4
denbot Jun 2020 #5
PandoraAwakened Jun 2020 #6
Beartracks Jun 2020 #16
mopinko Jun 2020 #31
Skidmore Jun 2020 #7
NNadir Jun 2020 #8
TheNewNumberTwo Jun 2020 #23
NNadir Jun 2020 #24
LineLineLineLineNew Reply #DumptheTurdNov3
TheNewNumberTwo Jun 2020 #34
NNadir Jun 2020 #35
TheNewNumberTwo Jun 2020 #36
flotsam Jun 2020 #10
evilhime Jun 2020 #11
bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #12
zipplewrath Jun 2020 #13
Beartracks Jun 2020 #14
mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #15
Iggo Jun 2020 #17
live love laugh Jun 2020 #18
seta1950 Jun 2020 #19
GulfCoast66 Jun 2020 #21
octoberlib Jun 2020 #25
smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #26
Cosmocat Jun 2020 #27
kentuck Jun 2020 #28
dalton99a Jun 2020 #32
Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #33
Please login to view edit histories.