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25. no the key is having citizen oversight

Reply to csziggy (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:51 AM

Jun 2020

if elections are not transparent enough for citizens to oversee the count with no need of special skills (beyond counting) then the elections are not the check democracy requires

of course trustworthy civil servants is always a good idea but with out oversight, how would the people ever know the civil servant isn't trustworthy?

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Georgia's Flawed Software Caused Ballot Tabulation Errors [View all] diva77 Jun 2020 OP

"errors" my ass ... no money spared in investigating Georgia's elections. uponit7771 Jun 2020 #1

Exactly. diva77 Jun 2020 #2

"errors" - We need to start calling crimes crimes. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #28

I agree. However, I think CGG is careful with words because they fight for election integrity using diva77 Jun 2020 #30

Why am I not surprised. Many thanks to CGG for their difficult and tedious work. nt 42bambi Jun 2020 #3

They were successful in ridding GA of the paperless DREs (very hard work), but then GA forked out diva77 Jun 2020 #6

there is a paper ballot to count isn't there? questionseverything Jun 2020 #12

I would be willing to bet these problems will be worse in November dlk Jun 2020 #4

You can count on it. No pun intended. diva77 Jun 2020 #8

Truly dlk Jun 2020 #10

KEMP insisted on buying the new voting machines from HIS campaign contributor. It wasn't any of the napi21 Jun 2020 #5

Even if there were time, they probably wouldn't do the testing properly. Zero times zero is diva77 Jun 2020 #9

There was a report today that the major problems with voting was the software. There's NO napi21 Jun 2020 #11

They just bought the Diebold machines in 2008. KentuckyWoman Jun 2020 #18

They had lots of major probllems with the Dibold machines. Most of them just weren't working napi21 Jun 2020 #21

Remember when Republicans said... Grins Jun 2020 #7

Pure MIHOP. "Errors" my rosy Irish ass. nt Hekate Jun 2020 #13

The paper ballots with scanners work very well **IF** the scanner is programmed correctly csziggy Jun 2020 #14

is still a trust me system questionseverything Jun 2020 #16

Yes - the key is having a Supervisor of Elections we can trust csziggy Jun 2020 #20

no the key is having citizen oversight questionseverything Jun 2020 #25

Both (or all) parties need to be able to witness the count. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #29

This is how it was always done in LA at the precinct level with hand counted paper ballots diva77 Jun 2020 #32

yes indeed questionseverything Jun 2020 #33

+1000000 crickets Jun 2020 #31

tyty questionseverything Jun 2020 #34

it always amazes me how we're able to totally screw up Buns_of_Fire Jun 2020 #15

That is not an error. It is by design. NT KentuckyWoman Jun 2020 #17

That's right. It's a feature, not a bug. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #19

Exactly. I wish the press release had put "errors" in quotes diva77 Jun 2020 #23

I'm not surprised. aikoaiko Jun 2020 #22

IOW everything went according to plan. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #24

It's good enough. Saying "voting is broken" is Republican, just like saying "government is broken." gulliver Jun 2020 #26

Not sure I'm following the logic of your post. You think inaccurate vote counting is good enough? diva77 Jun 2020 #27