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Awsi Dooger

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32. The OP should have realized he was feeding a bunch of frothing simpletons
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jun 2020

All they see is a raw number of short term injuries and deaths, and launch their simpleton outrages accordingly. They can't wait for the next spike so they can launch their simpleton outrages again. It is like a jack o lantern with the lid unlatched.

Anyway, I love Saratoga and the 15 year stretch I was a regular from 1995 through 2010. It is an incredible atmosphere. I always camped in Scotia then drove up to the races in early afternoon. Sometimes I'd play golf at SPAC or at Van Patten before making the afternoon trek to Saratoga. That's when I'd often experience the change of weather that the OP described. It could rain like heck at the track after being perfectly clear for golf, or the other way around. Some days were brutally hot and humid. It would vary even more year to year than day to day.

I remember that 2009 Woodward. I was supposed to be there. But I never made it to Saratoga that summer at all. A month earlier my father and I were involved in a major traffic accident in southern Georgia on I-95. We were fortunate to survive. We had to call off the trip to heal, physically and mentally. It was my dad's goal to make that trip the following year. We did and I'll always be grateful. It was my father's final big trip before his health declined to the point he couldn't do it. In 2010 we not only attended Saratoga but also we went to see Pimlico and Belmont. Granted, they were simulcast days not racing days but we were able to walk the grounds and get a feel for everything. Belmont is impressively expansive but hardly the atmosphere of wondrous Saratoga.

Hialeah during my youth is the only track that rivaled Saratoga along those lines. But I place Saratoga clearly on top. I always loved to watch the entertainment not far from the paddock at Saratoga, then get as close as I could to the walking ring as the jockeys were mounting, then after evaluating the horses from a physical standpoint I'd make my way back to the rail area maybe 100 yards shy of the finish line. It was fairly easy to move around in that area, except for huge days like Jim Dandy or obviously the Travers.

Best race I ever saw at Saratoga was the amazing finish from You and Carson Hollow in the Test Stakes. I felt so devastated for Carson Hollow. I remember eating at Ripe Tomato and not being able to taste the food at all. That race was another phenomenal call by Tom Durkin, in fact one of his best. The race is on YouTube.

I liked Rachel Alexandra but was never a huge fan. I think that aspect of Calvin Borel dumping the Derby winner Mine That Bird to ride Rachel Alexandra in the Preakness didn't sit right with me. It was obvious it would play out that way. Borel was the regular rider on Rachel Alexandra. I was hoping he would honor the historical nature of giving the Derby winner the best chance of maintaining opportunity for the Triple Crown. Instead Borel chose the more shortsighted route.

BTW, Billy Turner's wife is a member here. Or at least she was about a decade or so ago. Great Democrat. I used to reply back and forth to her in the sports forum. I always regretted that I didn't stop and visit them at Saratoga. But I had no way of knowing that my annual visits were coming to an end. Once my mom died in late 2008 then my dad was diagnosed with a terminal condition I was the only one in the family who could stay and help.

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Horse racing is inhumane BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #1
OH Please! shockey80 Jun 2020 #3
It is inhumane. MrsCoffee Jun 2020 #6
I guess we have to cancel all sports and sit home and do nothing. shockey80 Jun 2020 #8
Womp womp. MrsCoffee Jun 2020 #9
Um, soccer is in humane? Baseball? Tennis? Swimming? Skiing? Bowling? Tipperary Jun 2020 #16
No, just all sports that use animals, like horse racing, polo, dog racing, etc. obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #27
Your consistent usage of Reductio ad absurdum illustrates little rational thought. LanternWaste Jun 2020 #58
Wow, humans have a choice. Do more reading. Nt USALiberal Jun 2020 #18
Blah blah blah BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #25
Humans get to choose their sports. Animals do not. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #31
The Final Race... oioioi Jun 2020 #35
Absolutely horrific. Ban it. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #70
Ban it!!! PTWB Jun 2020 #73
I agree, and I really wish they'd outlaw the whips. Goodheart Jun 2020 #11
I thought I did hear they are limiting whips to six slaps per race a kennedy Jun 2020 #30
Yes it is. Tipperary Jun 2020 #15
What a beautiful horse! nt Phoenix61 Jun 2020 #2
Horse racing is cruel and barbaric. n/t Coventina Jun 2020 #4
That's a little harsh, and simply not true. shockey80 Jun 2020 #13
I am well informed on the subject. My family followed horse racing for years. Coventina Jun 2020 #17
You might want to read up on horse racing and all the unfortunate deaths of horses. Tipperary Jun 2020 #19
Post removed Post removed Jun 2020 #23
Lol, so a broken leg is ok because they kill them nicely? Nt USALiberal Jun 2020 #20
And why the fuck was their leg broken??? obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #28
Then there's factory farming... which is the last circle of hell. n/t demmiblue Jun 2020 #47
+1 demmiblue Jun 2020 #45
I honestly never understood... brooklynite Jun 2020 #5
Why? shockey80 Jun 2020 #7
How is that different than sitting in your backyard and watching a simulcast? brooklynite Jun 2020 #10
It's the atmosphere. You're partying with your friends, having a good time. shockey80 Jun 2020 #14
Sounds like people tailgating at a football game when they don't have tickets... brooklynite Jun 2020 #22
Really, that is something you are shocked about? Nt USALiberal Jun 2020 #21
Nor do I. I've set up tables in the backyard at both Belmont and Saratoga over the years.... George II Jun 2020 #82
Loved Rachel Alexandra, but Zenyatta was better. Goodheart Jun 2020 #12
I'm still sick that Zenyatta didn't pull out that last race Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #34
It was a bad ride. At one point he took her inside and wasted that motion and energy. Goodheart Jun 2020 #36
I would like remind everyone that football players, baseball players, shockey80 Jun 2020 #24
The attempts at whataboutism are ultra lame. BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #26
No shit. Tipperary Jun 2020 #42
IT IS THEIR DAMNED CHOICE obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #29
LOL, ok! n USALiberal Jun 2020 #37
The OP should have realized he was feeding a bunch of frothing simpletons Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #32
.... BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #33
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Jun 2020 #38
Why do you support abusing animals for your personal amusement? PTWB Jun 2020 #40
Frothing simpletons? Tipperary Jun 2020 #49
Raw numbers of death. Coventina Jun 2020 #52
Gross. MrsCoffee Jun 2020 #84
Horse racing is barbaric. It is cruelty to animals for your pleasure. PTWB Jun 2020 #39
Perhaps the op will take your advice. Tipperary Jun 2020 #48
I live about 30 minutes from the flat track Raftergirl Jun 2020 #41
I live near Saratoga. Tom Traubert Jun 2020 #51
Anthropomorphism. The horse wasn't running for love or glory. She was running for her life. Doremus Jun 2020 #43
This. Tipperary Jun 2020 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author essme Jun 2020 #60
Rachel Alexandra did not end up in a glue factory Green Line Jun 2020 #53
Neither ended up in a "glue factory." I saw Secretariat at his retirement farm essme Jun 2020 #56
Secretariat is buried in a grave that is a Mecca to horse racing fans. Blue_true Jun 2020 #77
Your description TuxedoKat Jun 2020 #46
Here's me near the front entrance to Saratoga, August 2010 Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #50
I can't wait until abusing animals for sport gets banned everywhere. PTWB Jun 2020 #64
"Horse racing is inhumane" essme Jun 2020 #54
I am. Coventina Jun 2020 #57
Me too- 2006 essme Jun 2020 #61
In that case, I'm sure you are aware of the many horrors of horse racing. Coventina Jun 2020 #62
Of course I am. That said, I think people whining over horses and slaughterhouses essme Jun 2020 #63
Well, I'm not going to wait for every last person to become vegetarian Coventina Jun 2020 #65
I agree. And I'll call them out on factory farming too essme Jun 2020 #66
It is disgusting, and beyond evil. Coventina Jun 2020 #67
"People whining over horses." Tipperary Jun 2020 #74
You are right; that was a crappy way to phrase that essme Jun 2020 #76
I grew up with horses. As a sensitive kid, they were solace to me. Tipperary Jun 2020 #78
True- and I apologize for my attitude essme Jun 2020 #79
I hear you. Tipperary Jun 2020 #80
This thread is fantastic. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #55
You are seriously comparing a horse race to women's rights? cwydro Jun 2020 #59
Now he started another post basically complaining about a having a post removed. demmiblue Jun 2020 #68
Yup obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #72
Ha, been in and out all day so I missed that one. Tipperary Jun 2020 #75
And managed to get himself FFR'd. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #83
They tore down the horse racing track nearest me ..Thank goodness! nt Raine Jun 2020 #69
+1 demmiblue Jun 2020 #71
I was there that day, too - behind the rows of seats near the eighth pole. I'd already bet... George II Jun 2020 #81
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