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essme

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60. While Arkansas is not huge it was #33 in 1990. Low middle of the pack.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jun 2020

Like it or not being a governor in just about any state is a pretty big deal. It is considered a qualifier for President (rightly or wrongly). Even Wyoming which was #50 in 1990 would be a boost.

Here is a really cool list of past experiences before becoming president (being a Governor is #1):

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-offices-are-good-stepping-stones-to-the-presidency/

Here is a neat list showing all past experiences (seems like a law degree, state governors, military, and senators really have a leg up with some crossover):

26 presidents were previously lawyers.
22 presidents had previous military experience; 9 were generals in the US Army.[a]
18 presidents previously served as U.S. representatives; 6 of 18 held this office prior to the four 'previous positions' shown in this table. Only one – James A. Garfield – was a Representative immediately before election as president. Only John Quincy Adams served as a U.S. representative after being president. Additionally, after being president, John Tyler served in the Provisional Confederate Congress and was later elected to the Confederate House of Representatives, but he died before taking his seat.[2]
17 presidents previously served as governors; 16 were state governors; 9 were governors immediately before election as president. One, William Howard Taft, served as a territorial governor. One, Andrew Jackson, served as a military governor (Florida).
16 presidents previously served as U.S. senators; only 3 immediately before election as president. Only one president, Andrew Johnson, served as a U.S. senator after his presidency.
14 presidents previously served as vice president. All except Richard Nixon were vice presidents immediately before becoming president; 9 of the 14 succeeded to the presidency because of the death or resignation of the elected president; 5 of those 9 were not re-elected.
8 presidents were out of office (for at least one year) immediately before election as president.
8 presidents previously served as Cabinet secretaries; 6 as secretary of state; 5 of the 8 served immediately before election as president.
7 presidents had previous experience in foreign service.

5 presidents had never been elected to public office before becoming president: Zachary Taylor, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and Donald Trump. Most of these had, however, been appointed to several prominent offices. Hoover's contributions toward the Treaty of Versailles preceded his appointment as United States secretary of commerce. Taylor, Grant and Eisenhower led U.S. forces to victory in the Mexican–American War, American Civil War and World War II, respectively – each occupying the highest-ranking command post of their time. Trump is the group's sole exception, having never held any public office nor any military position.

4 presidents taught at a university: James A. Garfield, William Howard Taft, Woodrow Wilson, and Barack Obama.
2 presidents served as party leaders of the House of Representatives, James A. Garfield and Gerald Ford.
1 president served as an ordained minister, serving as a pastor in the Disciples of Christ (Christian) Church. James A. Garfield. [3] [4]
1 president served as speaker of the House of Representatives, James K. Polk.
1 president served as president pro tempore of the United States Senate, John Tyler.
1 president served as party leader of the United States Senate, Lyndon B. Johnson.
1 president served as president of the United States for two non-consecutive terms, Grover Cleveland.

It matters. Abrams was robbed (99%) or close to it. She should be Georgia's Governor now but she isn't.

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No, she's not known nationally. nt Phoenix61 Jun 2020 #1
she is well known nationally AlexSFCA Jun 2020 #4
She was also given the rebuttle to the state of the (dis)union address by the Democrats after trump BComplex Jun 2020 #36
she can connect well to low income voters AlexSFCA Jun 2020 #41
No. She did not win her state. No national experience MaryMagdaline Jun 2020 #2
Experience doesn't matter in electoral politics. Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #15
Joe is old. Experience in number 2 position is important MaryMagdaline Jun 2020 #44
That's a GOP talking point Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #45
No. She needs to run and become the governor of Georgia bermudat Jun 2020 #3
I agree. She should be our governor right now. crickets Jun 2020 #48
Too soon ornotna Jun 2020 #5
She was House Minority Leader. She is an adept politician. n/t Laelth Jun 2020 #8
She said she hadn't been contacted by the Biden campaign to be vetted. PunkinPi Jun 2020 #6
That's a real shame. BComplex Jun 2020 #13
I think Stacey is great and she is a rising star in the party, PunkinPi Jun 2020 #19
Here's her background. BComplex Jun 2020 #23
Bill Clinton didn't have any experience on the federal level either Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #27
Bill Clinton was a governor, he had executive experience. PunkinPi Jun 2020 #32
Yes Governor of a very small state Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #33
While Arkansas is not huge it was #33 in 1990. Low middle of the pack. essme Jun 2020 #60
Seriously? How is that even possible? coti Jun 2020 #51
That's what she said when she was on Colbert... PunkinPi Jun 2020 #52
She is impressive, undoubtedly. Laelth Jun 2020 #7
Not enough experience to take over from day one. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #9
She was house minority leader in Georgia, and she actually won the governor's race BComplex Jun 2020 #14
She won it, but was cheated out of it and so didn't get to *be* the governor. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #39
Experience doesn't matter Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #17
I like her. She has a promising future. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #10
Nope... SidDithers Jun 2020 #11
I agree. Cornus Jun 2020 #12
In a recent Monmouth poll of Dems womanofthehills Jun 2020 #53
Was on PBS news hour yesterday California_Republic Jun 2020 #16
Southerners like her a lot more than they like Kamala. BComplex Jun 2020 #18
I agree that she should be given a shot, but I've never heard her speak on foreign policy Renew Deal Jun 2020 #20
The end of the video I posted, she talks about Turkey. BComplex Jun 2020 #22
How would you know that she is "well informed about everything?" Renew Deal Jun 2020 #24
Ok then. About everything a vp candidate needs to be well-informed about. BComplex Jun 2020 #29
I think Kamala brings everything Stacy brings and much more PTWB Jun 2020 #21
Does Harris help in any swing states? Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #26
Nope. Probably hurts, actually. nt coti Jun 2020 #55
Plenty of potential, TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #25
She needs some federal experience imo. Get in the house first. SweetieD Jun 2020 #28
I talk about Elizabeth Warren and Katie Porter being bright all the time. BComplex Jun 2020 #30
I said white men. SweetieD Jun 2020 #31
White men are often called bright, just like anyone else. BComplex Jun 2020 #34
Hope it's Susan Rice. RelativelyJones Jun 2020 #35
Doubt it - she only got 2% of the recent Monmouth poll womanofthehills Jun 2020 #54
Look at the backgrounds of the last few presidents Coleman Jun 2020 #37
She would be a great choice Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 #38
Me, too, Bradshaw. BComplex Jun 2020 #40
Would have been a good Senatorial candidate for either GA seat grantcart Jun 2020 #42
If you think she is campaigning for it, and she is so brazen and inept BComplex Jun 2020 #43
"If you think she is campaigning for it and she is so brazen" grantcart Jun 2020 #56
Thank you, grantcart. nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #57
Welcome, thank you grantcart Jun 2020 #59
I don't think so. She's not ready. BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #46
No one is ever ready Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #47
This is the one name I do not want Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #49
Completely agree. coti Jun 2020 #50
I think she would be a great choice. nt Mosby Jun 2020 #58
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