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grantcart

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22. In fact that is exactly how it works: Article 2 Section 2 Clause 1

Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:36 PM

Jun 2020

It is literally spelled out word for word in the constitution

The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment.

As it is questionable whether or not you can pardon yourself I expect that Trump will pardon Pence for all crimes (and everyone else in senior offices) have Pence sign a pardon for him and then resign as President.

After Pence is sworn in Trump will fill in the date.

The only way to proscribe that Trump cannot be pardoned is to impeach him, doesn't require a trial or any further action.

Currently Trump cannot be pardoned for the crimes listed in the impeachment that was already passed (conviction, again is not necessary). We should pass a comprehensive list of offenses and impeach him the day after the election without even sending it to the Senate. He would then be immunized against pardons for all of those crimes.

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Should Trump be impeached again? [View all] kentuck Jun 2020 OP

No. He should be removed via ballot box and then prosecuted... PTWB Jun 2020 #1

Can't happen while he's actively cheating to win uponit7771 Jun 2020 #5

Sure it can. PTWB Jun 2020 #7

Computers don't respond to "overcoming", that's just reality. We can continue to expose Red Don's uponit7771 Jun 2020 #8

We do what we are and have been doing. PTWB Jun 2020 #10

No, don't need to change votes at all. just make it harder to vote and Russians fund 3rd party ... uponit7771 Jun 2020 #21

A President who is impeached cannot be pardoned for those crimes. grantcart Jun 2020 #14

That's not how that works. PTWB Jun 2020 #15

In fact that is exactly how it works: Article 2 Section 2 Clause 1 grantcart Jun 2020 #22

That isn't how that works. PTWB Jun 2020 #23

You cannot read simple English. Conviction has absolutely nothing to do with it grantcart Jun 2020 #25

No, that is simply a common misconception that some folks have. PTWB Jun 2020 #27

It seems to me there would be some value to have it all prescribed for history? kentuck Jun 2020 #28

At this point it devalues the impeachment process and gives him political ammunition to use in Nov PTWB Jun 2020 #29

Yes. Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #2

It's warranted Rorey Jun 2020 #3

Yes, he deserves it. bearsfootball516 Jun 2020 #4

Trump is impeaching his own campaign right now Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #31

Yes, at minimum highlight his illegal actions to America uponit7771 Jun 2020 #6

It would be a obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2020 #9

Absolutely not. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #11

A double asterisk would be kinda cool Brother Buzz Jun 2020 #12

I think it's exactly what Republicans would do if the tables were turned Mr. Ected Jun 2020 #13

Oh, you said impeached. Solly Mack Jun 2020 #16

Yes yes yes,, Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #17

Immediately after the election there should be an omnibus impeachment bill grantcart Jun 2020 #18

Not before the election, it would look too political. marie999 Jun 2020 #19

The House should vote a quick impeachment on November 4th. BluesRunTheGame Jun 2020 #20

Your idea has a lot of potential. kentuck Jun 2020 #30

He should be impeached again just as soon as there is a bigly chance of convicting the SOB. Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #24

Waste of funds... 2naSalit Jun 2020 #26

It's those peoples fault. They know the risk. rockfordfile Jun 2020 #32