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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
67. Biden has to think big picture and long term
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 02:46 PM
Jun 2020

Susan Rice is superior to Kamala Harris. That should be the only variable, not dread about Benghazi or some son.

Harris is a flip flopping cheerleader type who goes along with the themes of the moment. That is why she jumped into that dance. That's why she is immediately prone to making a stupid overreactive comment. If she runs on her own the swing voters will see right through her.

Our party has had a dearth of excellent candidates emerge at the top. That's why it was so meaningless that 20 -- or whatever -- sought the nomination. One after another could be thrown out because they simply weren't special enough to get through a general election against GOP onslaught. Susan Rice did not run but she is that caliber. This is the type of person we need to elevate, to give an artificial boost via the vice presidential slot.

Otherwise if Biden only serves 4 years we're stuck with the same pool we had this time. Yes, they are great Democrats. They earn raves here. Who cares? I am looking at this from a handicapper perspective. They can't win. Susan Rice has that extra gear. I know damn well the people in my living room during those debate watching parties would have been super impressed with her and felt that she was plenty warm enough. Kamala Harris, in contrast, is going to come across as a phony.

This should not be a difficult choice if Joe Biden throws away the short term fear.

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Oh no its not. sunonmars Jun 2020 #1
That looks doubtful... PunkinPi Jun 2020 #2
What matters is who Biden favors left-of-center2012 Jun 2020 #61
Betting market strongly disagree. Harris equals all rivals combined (almost) grantcart Jun 2020 #3
Maybe so, but... NNguyenMD Jun 2020 #9
Her qualifications are limited grantcart Jun 2020 #58
Well said. SharonClark Jun 2020 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author SharonClark Jun 2020 #70
I like Rice and not fair to her, but I just don't want to hear a constant "Benghazi" distraction hlthe2b Jun 2020 #4
They will attack anyone that Biden picks with bs . If it's not Benghazi it will be some other bs JI7 Jun 2020 #7
I really admire Susan Rice and I think she would be great, but that is my biggest concern. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #8
Yes PatSeg Jun 2020 #20
I doubt that. cwydro Jun 2020 #5
RW media will have a field day with her son. honest.abe Jun 2020 #6
Oh yes, forgot about that. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #10
Yes, it is unfortunate. honest.abe Jun 2020 #14
I think our former NSA director is unmoved by... NNguyenMD Jun 2020 #11
I agree but the Biden campaign will likely see this as a major risk if she is picked as VP. honest.abe Jun 2020 #13
Agree it will be Harris. sarcasmo Jun 2020 #32
That's a deal breaker, right there. Paladin Jun 2020 #21
No it's only about getting votes Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #12
A California liberal isn't going to help in any swing states either BeyondGeography Jun 2020 #15
Harris is a formidable campaigner and we'll need that, Rice is not. sunonmars Jun 2020 #16
A formidable well-financed campaigner makes it to Iowa BeyondGeography Jun 2020 #22
She's more than a "California liberal" StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #18
+1 honest.abe Jun 2020 #24
👆...all of this Docreed2003 Jun 2020 #31
Here's a look at her tenure in CA BeyondGeography Jun 2020 #36
She was so "unpopular" in California she won her Senate seat by more than 20 points in 2016. honest.abe Jun 2020 #40
I'm hoping you're just venting and trying to get something out of your system StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #42
That's not "just venting" BeyondGeography Jun 2020 #45
This is also not the time to be thinking about passing left-wing purity tests. honest.abe Jun 2020 #46
You're not "vetting" anybody. You're not involved in the vetting process StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #47
"some people insist she's not liberal enough while some dismiss her as a "California liberal." jcgoldie Jun 2020 #37
You noticed that, too? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #48
Harris can help deliver voters across the board. honest.abe Jun 2020 #19
The fact that some people are dismissing her as bringing nothing StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #38
Im my opinion she got swiftboated during the primary for being a "controversial" prosecutor. honest.abe Jun 2020 #49
Yep StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #51
Wrong. It's because we've already been Benghazi'd to death... SMC22307 Jun 2020 #59
I was talking about Harris, not Rice StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #60
Capisce. I'd support Harris but I know many have issues... SMC22307 Jun 2020 #65
Biden wrote the 1994 Crime Bill and had even less traction in the primaries than Harris did StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #68
And let's hope those disgusted by his role in the Crime Bill turn out and vote. SMC22307 Jun 2020 #72
I do, too. That's one of the reasons I'm not picking apart Harris' or any other Democrats' record StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #73
Too much at stake with one Donald J Trump in office... people cannot lose sight of that. SMC22307 Jun 2020 #74
I agree Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #28
Whoever it's going to be-going to be pretty awkward for Pence to debate her. LisaL Jun 2020 #17
Harris' chances are overrated Renew Deal Jun 2020 #23
Who do you think is higher on the list? honest.abe Jun 2020 #26
Rice Renew Deal Jun 2020 #29
I was thinking Rice also until I read about her son who is a hard core Trumper. honest.abe Jun 2020 #30
The son looks like a douchebag so I don't think him opposing Biden JI7 Jun 2020 #34
What does his looks have to do with it?? honest.abe Jun 2020 #35
About as much a factor as 2naSalit Jun 2020 #57
I agree musclecar6 Jun 2020 #25
She's very intelligent. milestogo Jun 2020 #27
Harris Rises To Top of Biden's VP List sunonmars Jun 2020 #33
Does Rice have any campaigning experience? Tennessee Hillbilly Jun 2020 #39
None, she's never ran for anything, she's is no way in consideration still for this. sunonmars Jun 2020 #43
Unlikely. BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #41
We have so many good choices on the final list. fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #44
This Ohio Joe Jun 2020 #50
"Susan Rice may not get voters excited" procon Jun 2020 #52
I think Rice is the best choice. marie999 Jun 2020 #53
Truly hope so. Mike 03 Jun 2020 #54
No. ooky Jun 2020 #55
Joe Biden well remembers Benghazi...it will not be Rice...no matter how unfair Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #56
Biden Will Not Select Someone Who Has Never Held Elected Office n/t Indykatie Jun 2020 #62
That's the way it looks to me too, although I like Harris a lot too. gulliver Jun 2020 #63
This isn't 2008. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #64
I hope you're right. I think she's the most solid pick. ElementaryPenguin Jun 2020 #66
Biden has to think big picture and long term Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #67
"the short term fear" jcgoldie Jun 2020 #69
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