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nadinbrzezinski

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62. You may want to read what I wrote about the negotiating skills

Sun Jan 8, 2012, 12:21 AM

Jan 2012

in DC. To be honest, it is not Obama... it is systemic.

But when you start a negotiation close to what the other side wants, that is bad negotiating practice. Any B average business student, at a State College no less, knows that.

So tell me, why did they not start negotiating on Health Care from where MOST AMERICANS want it to be? And that is one of many examples. Don't give me the it is not politically feasible... it is something that FDR and LBJ would have done... even Clinton... it is negotiating 101.

And that my dear is the problem some of us have.

When he gets reelected he needs to take two weeks off and go to camp david and get a graduate seminar on negotiating techniques. I am sure a few people in the top colleges in the nation would love to teach him that.

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Moderates these days read as center right, nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #30

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* ronnie624 Jan 2012 #79

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Likewise, where do I claim I'm against compromise? I support Obama for chrissakes! BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #61

You may want to read what I wrote about the negotiating skills nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #62

Your post is awesome. And this gets right to the nub of the issue....... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #63

So you are accusing people of racism nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #67

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