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In reply to the discussion: What is a populist? [View all]

Tom Rinaldo

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5. I disagree with significant portions of this academic description
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 09:50 AM
Jun 2020

I have no problem with the insight that Populism is a "thin ideology", that is a useful and accurate insight. In the abstract Populism does not entail a standard checklist of policy positions or a specific ideological orientation, which is why there are those who can be described as "Populist" from each side of the political spectrum, and even from the center. There do not tend to be populist theoreticians, though individual theoreticians of differing ideologies can have "populist tendencies"

Democracy at its essence is a populist model for political organization. Democracy has no specific ideology beyond core populism, and in that regard it differs from many other forms of government in that Democracy is inherently organized so as to identify and reflect the "will of the people" in regards to decision making by a society.

Some who espouse populism do so as demagogues, in order to gain political leverage over opposing forces by seeking to rally to their side large elements of the population who have substantial grievances against the status quo. In many cases this type of so called populist holds little or no allegiance to the true interests of those who they claim to champion. It is a pose taken for expedient reasons. Many if not most demagogues pose as populists, but that doesn't mean that they are populists in the true sense of that term. They are demagogues, and the distinction is both real and significant.

I believe that those quoted above tend to conflate populists with demagogues. There is no institute that issues formal accreditation for those who are then entitled to be identified as populists. Demagogues often self proclaim themselves as populists, as that is consistent with their strategy for seizing power. However many great and esteemed positive movement leaders can just as easily (if not more so) be described as "populists". Many of those who built the organized labor movements of the late 19th and 20th centuries can be deemed as populists. Same for many in the abolition and women's suffrage movements. Many would consider someone like Martin Luther King Jr. to be a true populist.

True populists identify real divisions in a society (rather than seek to manufacture them) and then seek to redress significant imbalances that those divisions reflect in the distribution of power, rights and resources among the populous as a whole. They by definition no more "split society" by calling attention to potential injustices relative to the haves and have nots among us than do Black Lives Matter activists split our society along racial lines by calling out the lesser valuation that institutionalized racism places on black lives relative to white lives.

What is a populist? [View all] kentuck Jun 2020 OP
Differences in populism between the 2 parties JonLP24 Jun 2020 #1
Umhm. Defined by the current leaders, the LW version was class warfare Hortensis Jun 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Jun 2020 #6
Class warfare has already been declared by the rich onto the rest of us, how dare we attempt to... Humanist_Activist Jun 2020 #15
Suspect my moving most of my comment to its own post Hortensis Jun 2020 #8
I misread your post so I sent you a reply that had nothing to do with what you said JonLP24 Jun 2020 #10
Oh, been there, done that! :) Hortensis Jun 2020 #11
Demagogues Doc_Technical Jun 2020 #2
A euphemism for "unpopular and crazy?" lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #3
I disagree with significant portions of this academic description Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #5
Yours is the imagining of earnest supporters of change, Hortensis Jun 2020 #9
A populist movement can be a tool to destroy a nation. Or it can be a tool to redeem one Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #13
Problem is, they almost never redeem. Populist leaders Hortensis Jun 2020 #18
I think the crux of this debate revolves around the terms "populist movement" vs "populist leader" Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #19
Good national leaders try to draw everyone Hortensis Jun 2020 #20
A good national leader has a strong moral compass Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #24
Yes. And must always be very clear-eyed about what is moral. Hortensis Jun 2020 #26
Here we reach full agreement Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #27
:) Nice! Hortensis Jun 2020 #28
The most telling proof that populism is more a harnessed negative energy Hortensis Jun 2020 #7
I've always thought of it as politics for low info folks BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #12
Like Hope and Change JonLP24 Jun 2020 #21
This.... Hotler Jun 2020 #14
As a stand-alone political ideology, it's vague, tricky and poorly defined; as a frame or flavor on WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #16
'Populist' is an abused term, imo empedocles Jun 2020 #17
My guess is it's different depending on country & era. In the US post-1960? Racist. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #22
Populism is broadly aimed at "for the people" (e.g. "us") vs power interests and outsiders ("them") brooklynite Jun 2020 #23
Your first paragraph. Is that populism or just the truth? JonLP24 Jun 2020 #25
We also have to think of the term in context of the dominant social and political paradigm. Caliman73 Jun 2020 #29
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