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cthulu2016

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Sun Jan 8, 2012, 12:37 AM Jan 2012

The Saturday Debate (Narrow Winner Newt. Big Loser Perry.) [View all]

Huntsman was excellent and probably boosted his support in New Hampshire from 10% all the way up to... about 10%

Paul was pretty good. One of his better performances, by the standards of those who like Paul in the first place. If the tea-party was a real phenomenon, rather than an astro-turf mob of the usual bible-thumpers, it would be puzzling why Paul wouldn't get all their support. But the tea-party was always about vanilla republicanism and will not tolerate a rebel. (Oh the irony.) I'd say Paul hitting 20% in NH is a one in three shot.

Perry finshed his campaign. Again. Even the republicans probably don't want to re-invade Iraq. Dead man walking but too dumb to know it. His value as a stalking horse for Romney in SC (see: Fred Thompson 2008) is probably minimal. Dude will finish 5th in SC. (And dead last in NH)

Gingrich was kind of nasty without landing shit on the opposition. His ready eloquence in calling Obama a socialist was, however, notable on a stage full of men who cannot form a sentence and probably helped him. I suspect he pulled himself up close to rough parity with Santorum in NH. (The take-down of him as a Chickenhawk might have hurt if he were seeking the nomination of a party that didn't love chickenhawks.)

Santorum was awful, except in terms of expectations. He talked about president stuff and promised to demolish Iran. He gave the Xtian right no room for pause, by their minimal standards. Said he would not outlaw contraception, which is a positive for folks who were not already on the Santorumentum train. On balance, I'd say he helped himself slighty and is on equal footing with Paul and Gingrich in NH.

Romney really came off as a dork but the moderators didn't seem to mind much. Had a "Leave Britany alone!!11!" audience moment when mean ole' Stephanopolus pressed him to answer a very simple and not too controversial question. (That he dodged in stunningly transparent fashion.) This suggested that they know they're stuck with the guy. He did something clever, but probably accidental—he deferred to Paul as the Constitutionalist, slyly implying that he in any way agreed with Paul about the Constitution. (There is no upside for Romeny to be mean to Paul.) Romney sucked but will still pull 40% in NH.

Winners: Gingrich, Santorum, Paul

Losers: Perry, Romney

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What I don't get is how any sentient being could enter a polling booth coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #1
Pretty Boy Droid PurityOfEssence Jan 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #12
I never understood why the Republicans hate Romney before last night XemaSab Jan 2012 #14
Well, there's also the tiny little matter of what he did to Seamus, the family dog: coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #20
Thanks for this recap. I don't know how, but I wasn't aware there was gateley Jan 2012 #2
The K-99% agreees with you: coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #10
That is hysterical! nt gateley Jan 2012 #18
Don't know if you Facebook much, but if so you'll coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #19
Great summary. liberalmuse Jan 2012 #3
Mahalo for weekend update re dueling GOPers....poor things...all flustered up and no one to bite at opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #4
Paul fan explains his debate strategy SixthSense Jan 2012 #5
World of Roncraft cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #13
Good summary. I think you are dead on. former9thward Jan 2012 #6
Governor Perry reminds me of a fogbank. Do they have fog in Texas? n/t dimbear Jan 2012 #7
Yes, whenever Perry's there. scarletwoman Jan 2012 #9
actually, it is prevalent here even when Perry is out of town Skittles Jan 2012 #11
lol! deacon Jan 2012 #16
Something was crooked about that debate. They all pulled punches on romney. Rove handed out bags of deacon Jan 2012 #15
It's a weird dynamic. They don't really gain by attacking Romney. cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #17
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