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Drunken Irishman

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50. No. The DSCC and DCCC did a bulk of the heavy lifting.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:12 AM
Jun 2020

Chuck Schumer and Rahm Emanuel went into these states and got the candidates to run - people like Claire McCaskill, Jon Tester and Bob Casey, moderates. They were the ones who set the fund raising goals and succeeded in these races.

The 50 State Strategy wasn't even a 50 State Strategy. It was a Vulnerable State Strategy.

The problem is that America is even more divided today than it was in 2006 when these candidates won.

McCaskill received a shit-ton of funding in her race. She out-raised her opponent, Hawley, by double. Her losing wasn't because the 50 State Strategy disappeared. That's illogical because the commitment absolutely was there in in 2018, when the Democrats won back control of the House but did worse in the Senate.

She lost because Missouri has shifted ever further to the right over the last 12 years from her initial win.

Hell, McCaskill was on her way to potentially losing reelection in 2012 up until Todd Aiken made his rape comment and torpedoed his campaign. She lost pretty handily for a statewide race in 2018, despite a wave year for the Democrats, because of the shift - not because the Democrats had abandoned her. I pointed out how much money was dumped into her campaign: the party did everything they could to save that seat.

But this is how Missouri has gone at the presidential level the last three elections:

2008: R+.13 (POINT 13 - not 13%. We're talking less than a half of a percent.
2012: R+ 9.3
2016: R +18.5

Now maybe Biden does better in Missouri than Hillary (I think it's probable) but a clear trend is there.

So, the 50 State Strategy was more a Vulnerable Republican State strategy.

Arkansas is not vulnerable - not at the level Missouri was in 2006.

Georgia? Much more vulnerable.

And I expect the Dems will focus on that. But it wasn't like Dean was pouring in millions in every state. In 2006, no one from the party was supporting Pete Ashdown, the Democrat, against Orrin Hatch in Utah's Senate election.

No one was up in Idaho throwing money at those campaigns.

Arkansas, like Missouri, is another state that has consistently shifted more and more conservative.

Which is why I disagree that this is a result of moving away from the 50 State Strategy. It is not. It's a result of the continued regression of political viability for Democrats in some of these staunchly conservative states. You're only as good as the demographics who elect you. Right now, Arkansas isn't voting for a Democrat. Not against Cotton.

The Democratic challenger dropped out two hours after the filing deadline. Patterson Jun 2020 #1
yeah. so now we have an independent who could be formidable if he gets on the ballot jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #2
A pro-Bernie Independent will be formidable in Arkansas? brooklynite Jun 2020 #18
crazy right? jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #20
But he's not... brooklynite Jun 2020 #23
If Booker wins against mcconnell, will you concede I'm right? jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #26
I wouldn't count on *anyone* being competitive against McConnell. Trump voters will be out in force DTomlinson Jun 2020 #29
itll be tough, but competitive to me is anybody who is able to recruit jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #32
Competitive to me is being able to win or make it a close race... brooklynite Jun 2020 #35
polling is not everything. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #38
Polling ISN'T everything...if the race is relatively close brooklynite Jun 2020 #39
anybody can realistically beat somebody, usually jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #42
"anybody can realistically beat somebody, usually" brooklynite Jun 2020 #45
that same poll that shows Booker down 14 has McGrath down 20 versus Moscow Mitch Celerity Jun 2020 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author DTomlinson Jun 2020 #25
To be honest, I think the "Democratic" label is often what scares some people away. DTomlinson Jun 2020 #24
To spend more time with the spouse and kids? Or was it some underhanded and dishonest... NurseJackie Jun 2020 #3
I think there was something about a scandal that was brought to light jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #5
Vetting is important. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #6
Yeah... jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #7
It's not like anyone's lining up to be led to slaughter RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #41
WTF? Bring back Howard Dean and the 50-state project. dawg day Jun 2020 #4
Democrats had the seat with Mark Pryor sarisataka Jun 2020 #9
which shows that the seat is winnable. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #10
the last time Pryor won against a Republican opponent was 2002 Celerity Jun 2020 #56
Thank you. I get a laugh at the liberals who talk about the 50 state strategy. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #30
You'd rather have Cotton? dawg day Jun 2020 #51
No. But a lot on the left seemed indifferent to Pryor's loss. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #54
Who decided they didn't need him and who let the seat go? SharonClark Jun 2020 #34
He voted against the universal background check bill sarisataka Jun 2020 #48
Howard Dean's 50-state approach should never have been dropped. nt crickets Jun 2020 #21
It wasn't dropped. This is ridiculous, revisionist history. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #31
We seem to have different memories. crickets Jun 2020 #36
There's no different memories. There's the right - and there's the wrong. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #46
It has to be implemented correctly TheFarseer Jun 2020 #40
Field someone. dawg day Jun 2020 #52
That would mean running some right wing democrat JI7 Jun 2020 #49
Or a super progressive dawg day Jun 2020 #53
People want to know how Sgent Jun 2020 #8
we did run someone qazplm135 Jun 2020 #11
maybe my question is why was he the only one? jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #12
Probably because no one else wanted to run? qazplm135 Jun 2020 #13
True. But recruitment efforts usually involve some persuasion, and a state with 3 million people jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #14
they did have someone interested... qazplm135 Jun 2020 #15
again, they could have recruited more than one. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #16
if you want to cite vetting sure ok qazplm135 Jun 2020 #17
vet, and keep recruiting. if the vetting comes out poorly, recruit harder. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #22
In a bright red state TheFarseer Jun 2020 #43
in this case we just needed a warm body. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #44
False. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #33
Umm.... Sgent Jun 2020 #47
No. The DSCC and DCCC did a bulk of the heavy lifting. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #50
What a failure not to have a challenger rockfordfile Jun 2020 #19
Can a write in candidate win if they receive enough votes? tavernier Jun 2020 #27
yes. he is filing as a write in candidate just in case he doesn't get on the ballot jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #28
Unacceptable superpatriotman Jun 2020 #37
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