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Igel

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11. Read the report.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:31 AM
Jun 2020

Several officials said
that they had been told that
the president had been briefed ... weeks after the briefly is said to have taken place when this information was made more widespread.

No eyewitnesses there, just hearsay. It's unclear if more than one person told the NYT's informants or if it was just one person. It's unclear if that that person or persons informing the informats were reporting hearsay or were witnesses. Unclear if the briefing was a line in a 20 page report or if it was front and center in the spoken/AV presentation.

It's like the ABC report on the COVID briefing from late November. One report over something not very likely--mass disruptions, ambulances, etc., in Wuhan that somehow nobody noticed. With the first real-time report showing up in December. The ABC report deserved to be ignored, but not forgotten.

The NYT story's alleged briefing involved a report. In the report it was concluded that it was "likely" (not 100% sure, that) something had happened. Highly likely? Likely with low confidence? Don't know--it would have said more than "likely", because (I believe) such reports carry an appraisal of the appraisal, at least the ones that have been made public through the legal means.

That something was a Russian agency's offering money to the Taliban for attacks on Americans.

The NYT said that they didn't have any information on whether any actual attacks occurred as a result, so no what/where/when. Or if any money had been paid for any attacks. They surmised it was the GRU, but it was gap-filling based on ... what's likely.

The information came from the interrogations (by somebody--maybe US, maybe Afghan government) of captured Taliban. There's no claim that the Taliban captured were actually present to see what they reported on or if that was also hearsay--perhaps third or fourth hand, the NYT didn't say because it didn't know. And at some point all the "we don't knows" have to start making people question what we *do* know.

The main story is that the claim that there was a briefing. But even that's at least twice removed from the reporter and is covered in fuzziness.

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The excuse we are not at war. In my opinion many things in doc03 Jun 2020 #1
Definitions...." levies war "...A declaration of war by Congress May not be needed...enemy "levies" ashredux Jun 2020 #3
Deadly force, combat, at least bombs or shooting etc., required Cicada Jun 2020 #5
Well, Benedict Arnold would like a do-over ashredux Jun 2020 #6
Yes, aiding or abetting works Cicada Jun 2020 #7
That requires adherence to the enemy. NutmegYankee Jun 2020 #10
The SC needs to look at the definition again. Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #8
Countless members of the gop Scarsdale Jun 2020 #9
+1 c-rational Jun 2020 #13
I sent a link on this to Rep Grainger yesterday on her FB page I was not the first yellowdogintexas Jun 2020 #20
It's our natural state. ChazInAz Jun 2020 #17
Or the Taliban... paleotn Jun 2020 #24
Our sovereignty has been violated in elections, in cyberspace hacking bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #16
It doesn't need updating. All we need is prudent, patriotic Americans loyal to the Constitution KPN Jun 2020 #14
Very true... WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2020 #26
Do you have two witnesses? brooklynite Jun 2020 #2
Pretty sure several know and witnessed him being briefed.... ashredux Jun 2020 #4
Read the report. Igel Jun 2020 #11
One or more will blow a whistle soon.....this is HOT. ashredux Jun 2020 #12
I just hope this does not backfire like the W AWOL incident did on Dan Rather nt yellowdogintexas Jun 2020 #22
Doubtful that would be an issue. paleotn Jun 2020 #25
Are you a Real Patriot... ashredux Jun 2020 #15
he needs to be impeached, again & no, it isn't a waste of time, take that criminal barr yaesu Jun 2020 #18
"levies war against them or adheres to their enemies" The Blue Flower Jun 2020 #19
Adheres to their enemies. radical noodle Jun 2020 #21
If by giving aid or comfort the founders also included doing nothing and looking the other way Mr. Ected Jun 2020 #23
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