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PTWB

(4,131 posts)
29. People like to place blame on their pet issues.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:18 PM
Jun 2020

When the margins were as close as they were in 2016, it is easy to point to any one little misstep and lay the entire defeat upon it. I think HRC would have been better served by being vocally the proud, progressive liberal she always has been. I felt like the messaging in her campaign really missed the mark - that a focus group was responsible. She is such an amazing person and would have been such an amazing president. I don’t think she was represented well, at all, by the messaging in her campaign.

But we’ve had folks blame Bill Clinton, Obama, Bernie, Bernie supporters, Russia, Comey, and 25 years of right wing smear campaigns.

I think it’s clear that Comey’s actions had an impact, along with the a Russian misinformation and of course the years of right wing smears that HRC had to endure. But most of the other excuses are just people blowing smoke. Anyone who claims they didn’t vote for HRC because Bill or Bernie or Obama campaigned too much (or too little), weren’t going to vote for her anyway.

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. Squinch Jun 2020 #1
oh thank god. I was getting worried when I saw one poll cut in half jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #2
I get the optimism, but in reality, this means diddly squat. National polls don't matter... SKKY Jun 2020 #3
Two points DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2020 #5
I agree, and I certainly didn't mean to suggest I don't share your optimism... SKKY Jun 2020 #6
"crappy campaign"? In the face of an unprecedented perfect storm, she still won. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #24
People like to place blame on their pet issues. PTWB Jun 2020 #29
+1 BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #10
Of course, we should ALL listen to the "In The Bag" crew AllTooEasy Jun 2020 #22
blah blah blah nobody said anything about it being in the bag BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #28
Summer is always the key reference point for an incumbent Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #31
Great analysis Awsi. I enjoyed that. BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #34
You are most welcome Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #37
Kornacki said the same thing. Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #32
Here's a source for those polls. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #7
Thanks for the map. I have to Jspur Jun 2020 #8
Yes, although I personally want an Ohio win too. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #11
Ohio drives me nuts. I have had this fantasy for Jspur Jun 2020 #12
I know, but I don't want to follow the path of Missouri. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #14
I would say it's been Ohio's streak of Jspur Jun 2020 #18
No offense taken. I'm not really the type to "identify"... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #27
I am in Ohio also...and I want a win! Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #33
Nebraska House District 2 jayschool2013 Jun 2020 #19
Yep, I'm aware of it. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #21
You Da' Man! AllTooEasy Jun 2020 #23
Here's an interactive electoral map...can try out different pathways. Canoe52 Jun 2020 #26
Indeed - people get ramped up over the national polls - Deja Vu MisterProton Jun 2020 #9
Cool.. Keth Jun 2020 #4
Donald That Is 12 Points Since We All Know You Can't Do Math DanieRains Jun 2020 #13
Be aware, I'm sure tRUMP supporters often answer poll questions with: SayItLoud Jun 2020 #15
53% MoonlitKnight Jun 2020 #16
I am not going to get excited until they are Doreen Jun 2020 #17
A serious time yet a moment to celebrate Miigwech Jun 2020 #20
I want nothing less than a Johnson/Goldwater or Reagan/Mondale JOEggernaut. George II Jun 2020 #25
41%, blows my mind how many brain dead fucking covidiots live here. OverBurn Jun 2020 #30
K&R mvd Jun 2020 #35
Imagine if the percentage difference was anything even close to this in the GE, and Trump still won coti Jun 2020 #36
K and R oasis Jul 2020 #38
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