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Nevilledog

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3. I'm torn on this.

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:27 PM

Jul 2020

We're talking about young adults. Young adults do really stupid things, but keeping someone from college has the potential to alter their entire lives, and not for the better.

It reminds me of all the times I argued with prosecutors about negotiating a non-felony plea for my young clients. Give them a chance to straighten up, put them on probation, require programming if necessary. And if they are successful at completing these tasks, withdraw the felony. (AZ law has offenses that can be undesignated convictions). These kids could end up with misdemeanors or dismissals, but they had to earn it.

I'd rather see colleges come up with a way that these kids, making dumbass choices, can learn from their mistakes and earn readmission.

Let it be a teachable moment instead of a complete loss of opportunity.

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Colleges Rescinding Admissions Offers as Racist Social Media Posts Emerge [View all] BigmanPigman Jul 2020 OP

Good. dalton99a Jul 2020 #1

Consequences. tulipsandroses Jul 2020 #2

She needs to be educated BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #8

I'm torn on this. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #3

Okay.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2020 #4

I had 27 years of watching young people's lives be destroyed for stupidity. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #6

A lot of times- when I've seen these issues come up - they tend to be with more "elite" schools tulipsandroses Jul 2020 #17

And if that's true they won't do the work to get readmitted. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #20

Your post certainly wasn't a Karen post madeup64 Jul 2020 #32

I support 2nd chances Nevilledog Jul 2020 #49

Agree with your sentiment. It's in society's interest that Hortensis Jul 2020 #62

Agree. ananda Jul 2020 #41

Ughhh ... nsd Jul 2020 #11

You're Welcome.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2020 #39

I think that's dismissive of a reality Dorian Gray Jul 2020 #46

I tend to agree Skittles Jul 2020 #5

Right? Nevilledog Jul 2020 #7

it's just that Skittles Jul 2020 #9

Exactly..... Give them the opportunity. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #10

How many teachable moments nocoincidences Jul 2020 #12

Okay. You support punitive action. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #15

This... LovingA2andMI Jul 2020 #40

Or just give Black kids the same opportunities. ananda Jul 2020 #42

White people don't want to give black kids same opportunities JI7 Jul 2020 #43

Concur. I'm equally torn as well. I think we're are on a very, very slippery... SKKY Jul 2020 #13

I agree with this, "...we still do have the right of free speech..." rpannier Jul 2020 #29

So, here is the other side of this argument... SKKY Jul 2020 #47

Universities have always examined the character of students. Hortensis Jul 2020 #63

This doesn't keep them from college. Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #16

Exactly, that's what I just posted before reading your post tulipsandroses Jul 2020 #18

I never suggested that an apology was sufficient. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #22

My comment about apologizing wasn't in reference to anything that you said. Quite often, tulipsandroses Jul 2020 #25

And I would never support her readmission. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #28

And what's the harm in giving them the opportunity to change? Nevilledog Jul 2020 #21

I'm a social worker and have spent decades helping Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #23

I'm assuming this is people of all colors Skittles Jul 2020 #24

Yep! A true cross-section of America. nt Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #27

Who specifically is denying them opportunity for change? LanternWaste Jul 2020 #67

Enjoy your opinion. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #69

I understand you're torn. I am not really torn on this rpannier Jul 2020 #30

I don't agree. Mariana Jul 2020 #33

Attending college has historically been seen as a privelege rather than a right usajumpedtheshark Jul 2020 #36

You are right CatLady78 Jul 2020 #44

Sad fact is that schools can only accept so many students per year. Lancero Jul 2020 #45

What else would you call this if not a 'teachable moment"? lunatica Jul 2020 #50

Never suggested a slap on the wrist if you read the rest of my posts on this thread. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #52

A good teachable moment that actions have consequences gollygee Jul 2020 #51

Obviously people are not reading or comprehending my posts. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #54

I'm tired of entitled kids getting second chances gollygee Jul 2020 #57

There ya go! Nevilledog Jul 2020 #59

Not getting into a first-choice college is a big consequence, and also an opportunity to change. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #60

Okay. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #61

Pretty sure absolutely no one is "kept from college" because of racist social media posts. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #53

*sigh* Nevilledog Jul 2020 #55

And? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #56

I posted my opinion extensively. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #58

You may have posted your opinion extensively, but you've failed to support it. LanternWaste Jul 2020 #71

Your wisdom is most appreciated. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #72

there are nazis on the march Voltaire2 Jul 2020 #65

This discussion is not about choosing sides. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #66

yeah it is. Voltaire2 Jul 2020 #68

Alrighty. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #70

I agree with you... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #73

Interesting though UNC Wilmington just paid out over 500 k to get a professor dsc Jul 2020 #14

Can't say I blame them. Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #19

A couple of reasons usajumpedtheshark Jul 2020 #38

I can't believe people are torn on this JonLP24 Jul 2020 #26

I think being torn on this comes from not being certain of what the criterion is rpannier Jul 2020 #31

Some express a lot of concern for the futures of the racists Mariana Jul 2020 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2020 #35

Oh well JustAnotherGen Jul 2020 #37

If they are stupid enough countingbluecars Jul 2020 #48

Keep it up public universities!! The racists can go to private schools like Liberty U & Trump U onetexan Jul 2020 #64