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bluestarone

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34. I hope this means no voting AND no GUNS!!

Reply to demtenjeep (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:00 PM

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what does it mean when he commutes stone's sentence? [View all] demtenjeep Jul 2020 OP

Doesn't that mean Stone admits guilt & must freely participate in any othr criminal investigation? TheBlackAdder Jul 2020 #1

No, that's a pardon. If he'd accepted a pardon he'd have to admit guilt, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #4

But it does mean he is still a convicted felon (7 felonies). madinmaryland Jul 2020 #8

Yes, it does. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #10

People keep posting this. former9thward Jul 2020 #30

Not so. Confession is imputed by acceptance. Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915): The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #32

No. former9thward Jul 2020 #35

Thanks for clarifying it and clearing my confusion. TheBlackAdder Jul 2020 #33

Had He Been Pardoned, Sir, Yes The Magistrate Jul 2020 #5

It means he doesn't have to go to prison, although The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #2

No Jail, Conviction Stands The Magistrate Jul 2020 #3

Zippy doesn't have to go to jail. BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #6

It could get thrown out in court. Stone's tweet ensures it. donkeypoofed Jul 2020 #7

It can't be thrown out in court because, like pardons, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #9

" ...except in cases of impeachment" cureautismnow Jul 2020 #17

No, what that means is only that an impeachment can't be pardoned. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #18

Wouldn't that preclude Trump from receiving a future pardon from Pence? cureautismnow Jul 2020 #19

No. That's not what it means. It means that a president can't undo The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #20

The framers messed up then. cureautismnow Jul 2020 #29

However....the judge may be able to quash the communtation dixiegrrrrl Jul 2020 #24

How? The power is in the Constitution. The underlying crime might be prosecuted, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #25

No she can't. former9thward Jul 2020 #31

Is there a screen cap of that tweet? Alex4Martinez Jul 2020 #16

It means he's still a convicted felon, but can still take the fifth Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #11

agreed, but wait until next year when we have a senate and whaite house not awash in corruption Takket Jul 2020 #23

The new AG will be an even more crucial appointment than usual. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #28

He has got the goods unlike Manafort and Cohen ... mr_lebowski Jul 2020 #12

Like everyone else said, its not a pardon. Xolodno Jul 2020 #13

Until Trump loses in November then Stone at some point gets the full pardon. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2020 #15

No guns StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #21

He's free now to devote all his time to devising dirty tricks to help the criminal in the WH wishstar Jul 2020 #14

A felony record would not disqualify him Chainfire Jul 2020 #22

If he is pardoned, he cannot "take the Fifth"..? kentuck Jul 2020 #26

All the guys in the prison yard won't be jacking to the Nixon tattoo on Rogers back now. Captain Zero Jul 2020 #27

I hope this means no voting AND no GUNS!! bluestarone Jul 2020 #34