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PoindexterOglethorpe

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58. There are many, many different viruses that cause colds and flu.

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 01:16 PM

Jul 2020

Generally speaking, each cold or flu you have comes from a different virus. There is some evidence that some of the corona viruses which cause colds can re-infect a person some time after they've gotten and recovered from the previous that-corona-virus-caused-cold.

Rhinoviruses are the main source of colds. Once you recover from one of those, you won't get sick the next time you come up against that specific rhino virus.

Flu viruses are more complicated, but at least some immunity is conferred if you get an then recover from a specific flu virus.

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My patient caught Covid-19 twice. So long to herd immunity hopes. [View all] soothsayer Jul 2020 OP

Also does not bode well for a vaccine soothsayer Jul 2020 #1

Along with other reports that the antibodies in some patients luvtheGWN Jul 2020 #25

Yep, that's my fear as well. LisaL Jul 2020 #27

I guess you could get a booster every few months soothsayer Jul 2020 #28

That's normal. Antibodies are the immediate response; Memory B Cells are the long-term response. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #51

Thanks! luvtheGWN Jul 2020 #53

Right - we keep seeing the story about antibodies fading, as if it's a disaster. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #59

Everyone is talking about a vaccine, but it's not really practical over the next year or so. Renew Deal Jul 2020 #63

Soothsayer? More like Doomsayer. BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #2

I know! soothsayer Jul 2020 #3

This is unsurprising SoonerPride Jul 2020 #4

Another bad characteristic Sucha NastyWoman Jul 2020 #5

Potentially a false positive Loki Liesmith Jul 2020 #6

But they get worse symptoms soothsayer Jul 2020 #7

There's still a difference between testing positive and being sick FBaggins Jul 2020 #18

There are some viruses that provide long lasting immunity. LisaL Jul 2020 #33

At this point, we just don't know FBaggins Jul 2020 #43

T cells and Memory B Cells are important long-term; antobodies are always short-term protection. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #52

Almost impossible Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #48

I think so. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #65

We've had patients that tested positive in March and April Docreed2003 Jul 2020 #8

Yes this!! This article is describing a well documented phenomenon AkFemDem Jul 2020 #9

So people don't get dengue fever multiple times either? soothsayer Jul 2020 #11

That's not the opinion of the doctor writing the article. LisaL Jul 2020 #30

They did not get the virus twice obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #10

Still in dispute. Unfortunately. ecstatic Jul 2020 #15

A study a few weeks ago from China showed no antibody AllyCat Jul 2020 #29

What has been documented "all over the world" is that some people LisaL Jul 2020 #31

how do they know they caught it a second time Blues Heron Jul 2020 #12

Dunno. CDC says this soothsayer Jul 2020 #13

Cool, good info, thanks Soothsayer Blues Heron Jul 2020 #20

making that argument is the reason for the article Orangepeel Jul 2020 #17

Thanks! guess I should have read the article! Blues Heron Jul 2020 #19

Even the ones who develop antibodies don't seem to keep them that long. LisaL Jul 2020 #26

We are so screwed ecstatic Jul 2020 #14

Summer already didn't work. LisaL Jul 2020 #24

One cannot catch Covid twice. The problem is with the PCR. SpaceNeedle Jul 2020 #16

except he was very sick the second time around Blues Heron Jul 2020 #21

Dunno, seems the jury is out as yet, but I hope you're right soothsayer Jul 2020 #22

Not true at all. LisaL Jul 2020 #23

And the dengue fever cautionary tale is a good one soothsayer Jul 2020 #34

There are many, many different viruses that cause colds and flu. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #58

That is the issue with people who continue to test positive but are asymptomatic. Chemisse Jul 2020 #36

Welcome to DU! SoonerPride Jul 2020 #37

This is not totally surprising considering recent studies about antibodies. Chemisse Jul 2020 #32

Strong vaccines sound worrisome because that really bad immune response is deadly soothsayer Jul 2020 #35

We may end up with a vaccine you get monthly. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #38

First ones will likely be intravenous soothsayer Jul 2020 #42

This is extremely serious. BSdetect Jul 2020 #39

Continued study of this is necessary Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #40

Early days soothsayer Jul 2020 #41

Yes Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #45

I'll vote for that reality soothsayer Jul 2020 #46

immunity from an infection..... BGBD Jul 2020 #44

Oh good grief. UTUSN Jul 2020 #47

Got sick and then infected again 2 months later? Is it possible it was from a new mutated strain? Baclava Jul 2020 #49

There will always be some people with poor immune response. Too soon to say everybody is like that. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #50

There is no coronavirus vaccine of any type SoonerPride Jul 2020 #54

The problem with the cold is that it's many different viruses; some of them are coronaviruses. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #60

absolutely BGBD Jul 2020 #55

Correct, the T cells seem to be gaining memory of Covid 19 Quixote1818 Jul 2020 #61

One doctor thinks it happened with one of their patients kcr Jul 2020 #56

The headline didn't say it was a study. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #57

So? I didn't say the headline said that. kcr Jul 2020 #62

indeed, here is an article that deals with it, and other gloom and doom hype Celerity Jul 2020 #67

Our best hope right now is monoclonal antibody therapy. roamer65 Jul 2020 #64

this is a hyped-up FUD article, and is dealt with here Celerity Jul 2020 #66