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smirkymonkey

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21. Either nature will take over (disease, global warming, which will cause starvation and death from

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:46 PM

Jul 2020

extreme weather conditions) or violence will cull the herd via wars, genocide, imposed starvation, etc. Population growth at those levels is not sustainable, especially in poor countries with few resources.

The best thing we can do in those countries is to educate women and economically empower them. The men too. The women need autonomy over their own bodies so that they are not just broodmares who keep popping out children that they cannot afford to feed or take care of. That is not a good life for anybody!

I really believe we should be shooting for zero population growth on a global level. Human beings are a detriment to the planet.

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Researchers Say Earth Is Headed for "Jaw-Dropping" Population Decline [View all] Celerity Jul 2020 OP

Hello "Children Of Men". ret5hd Jul 2020 #1

That's right rusty quoin Jul 2020 #22

This is a good problem to have. PTWB Jul 2020 #2

eh I don't think it's as good as you think qazplm135 Jul 2020 #11

We definitely need fewer people. PTWB Jul 2020 #13

I'm with you, too many people. Alex4Martinez Jul 2020 #16

not really qazplm135 Jul 2020 #24

It's easier to reduce our population than change our nature. PTWB Jul 2020 #31

But we aren't going to reduce our population from what it is now qazplm135 Jul 2020 #33

That isn't what the article says. PTWB Jul 2020 #35

to a number over a billion MORE qazplm135 Jul 2020 #37

The decline will continue. PTWB Jul 2020 #38

lol qazplm135 Jul 2020 #40

Agree completely!! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #29

Oh, brother, that they have to suggest an existential problem out Hortensis Jul 2020 #58

Initially, that will be a problem, but once lower birth rates become the norm, things will smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #17

Your answer confirms that... HelpImSurrounded Jul 2020 #41

lol qazplm135 Jul 2020 #42

LOL some of us already working into our 60s-70s! Id be living on dogfood if I Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2020 #54

I wouldn't trust the forecasts of anyone marybourg Jul 2020 #3

Your are incorrect. Forecasted is commonly used (but not limited to) British English, and is also Celerity Jul 2020 #47

Yes, we will have to reorganize societies, and I don't think this is a bad thing. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #4

You are so very wise :) nt mr_lebowski Jul 2020 #7

+1000 Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #30

Yeah greytdemocrat Jul 2020 #43

Who would be killed? smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #46

Everything you said on this thread CatLady78 Jul 2020 #51

Please name a socialist country that does not want growth. former9thward Jul 2020 #53

yes indeed. Voltaire2 Jul 2020 #57

I'd say it's the Aschen, but we didn't get the cool technology. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #5

There's nothing bad about this. NOTHING ... mr_lebowski Jul 2020 #6

unless you live in Nigeria, they're projected to have more people than the US and the EU combined do Celerity Jul 2020 #8

That sounds absolutely insane for a country of that size. Ace Rothstein Jul 2020 #14

Bangladesh is one sixth the size of Nigeria and has 165 million, Nigeria has 206 million now Celerity Jul 2020 #27

Bangladesh sounds like a hard pass from me. Ace Rothstein Jul 2020 #34

... Celerity Jul 2020 #36

if Bangladesh was the same size as Nigeria, with its current density, it'd have 1.03 billion people Celerity Jul 2020 #32

Either nature will take over (disease, global warming, which will cause starvation and death from smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #21

This isn't a problem. BGBD Jul 2020 #9

It's gonna drop faster than these forecasts. roamer65 Jul 2020 #10

Or a pandemic 10x more deadly than covid Wednesdays Jul 2020 #23

A decrease in litter size is normal in rat overpopulation experiments. aggression is increased too Baclava Jul 2020 #12

8.8 billion by 2100? In your dreams NickB79 Jul 2020 #15

There will be more automation in the future. The only reason they say it's negative JI7 Jul 2020 #18

Earth is also headed for "Jaw-Dropping" decline in habitable areas. PSPS Jul 2020 #19

Remember when SOYLENT GREEN suggested that our real problem was overpopulation? brooklynite Jul 2020 #20

They had a lot of extras for that movie. It was the last movie for Edward G. Robinson. rusty quoin Jul 2020 #25

"Who pays tax in a massively aged world? Who pays for healthcare for the elderly?" Mariana Jul 2020 #26

A peak population of 10 billion on an already severely stressed planet Crunchy Frog Jul 2020 #28

Yup.nt CatLady78 Jul 2020 #50

The Fascists will still keep having them though dustyscamp Jul 2020 #39

This pandemic that we're living through is only a preview of what will happen if we don't stop this. Initech Jul 2020 #44

This doesn't factor in medical advances meadowlander Jul 2020 #45

did you read the study (I provided the link to it in the OP)? Celerity Jul 2020 #49

This is a good thing-the planet is overburdened CatLady78 Jul 2020 #48

I already have enough stress worrying about the next 6 months. milestogo Jul 2020 #52

Call it Malthus' Revenge ucrdem Jul 2020 #55

Their figures can end up quite surprising muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #56

Idk, I think climate change will get in the way of this eventually Calculating Jul 2020 #59