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cthulu2016

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77. You do have to threaten someone for it to be assault.

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #56)

Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:30 PM

Sep 2012

The essential elements of assault are an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that does cause that apprehension of such contact in the victim.

Words cannot be assault unless accompanied by threatening gesture, and/or demonstration of the ability to do the threatened harm. Pointing a gun at you is assault. Someone saying, "I will shoot you" and opening his coat to show a gun that is not pointed at you is also assault.

The legal definition may confuse some because of the phrase "offensive contact" which does not mean what we would use it to mean in everyday speech—offensive contact means physical battery.

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Iran Cleric Pummeled by �Badly Covered� Woman After Warning [View all] Purveyor Sep 2012 OP

Sweet justice, indeed! Hopefully this fine lady went unidentified and the article doesn't Purveyor Sep 2012 #1

good jpbollma Sep 2012 #4

She was the one wearing black. n/t Ian David Sep 2012 #76

nice. :D marasinghe Sep 2012 #80

Good for her! OriginalGeek Sep 2012 #2

Iran is not Saudi Arabia ... dawg Sep 2012 #3

Got a good chuckle out of that. In KSA, she would have been whipped. leveymg Sep 2012 #5

Good for her Marrah_G Sep 2012 #6

Heh! Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #7

Excellent, but I hope this woman doesn't get arrested and stoned to death or beheaded (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #8

I hope she doesn't get stoned to death for this jsr Sep 2012 #9

Poor baby get the red out Sep 2012 #10

Come on, say it: "Feminazi" DetlefK Sep 2012 #11

"You cover your eyes" Barack_America Sep 2012 #12

+1 Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #28

Did it say he threatened her or laid a hand on her? Zalatix Sep 2012 #13

Well behaved women seldom make history Marrah_G Sep 2012 #16

So committing assault and battery on someone who didn't touch you is okay? Zalatix Sep 2012 #18

In this case yes Marrah_G Sep 2012 #21

+1 what you said. Matariki Sep 2012 #47

He assaulted and threatened her first obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #29

Like I asked, where did he touch or threaten her? I didn't see that. Zalatix Sep 2012 #31

Are you male? Marrah_G Sep 2012 #35

"Are you male"? Ah, an inquisition. No wonder I didn't get an ACTUAL ANSWER to my question. Zalatix Sep 2012 #36

I ask because you seem to think that women there have the same rights as they do here Marrah_G Sep 2012 #48

Are you serious? DiverDave Sep 2012 #61

I'll give you an answer... PoliticalBiker Sep 2012 #64

You don;t have to threaten someone for assault obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #57

Look at the text. He didn't *ask" her, he warned her. That's a threat Gormy Cuss Sep 2012 #66

Your knowledge of what constitutes "assault" appears to be limited (to put it kindly). 11 Bravo Sep 2012 #65

He did. He attacked her psyche by verbally assaulting her. notadmblnd Sep 2012 #69

Assault cannot be entirely verbal, by law. cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #81

Oh yes, I'm sure he only asked her to cover up in the kindest way. notadmblnd Sep 2012 #82

Legally speaking, making the victim feel threatened is enough to constitute assault. Selatius Sep 2012 #84

Yes, this is one of those cases where the fundie POS deserved to get his ass kicked snooper2 Sep 2012 #30

Are you aware of Islamic history in this regard? WinkyDink Sep 2012 #39

He did assault her leftynyc Sep 2012 #52

Yup, what I said obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #58

I hope she tells all her friends leftynyc Sep 2012 #68

Yes, in this case it's ok JI7 Sep 2012 #74

I would have hit him too. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #83

Why should that matter? Ghost in the Machine Sep 2012 #19

Why should that matter? Around here that's called felony assault. Zalatix Sep 2012 #20

Around here, women aren't forced to dress that way oberliner Sep 2012 #22

Around here get the red out Sep 2012 #26

Honestly, I wish more women would respond this way to street harassment. Brickbat Sep 2012 #44

Around here, what he did would legally be assault obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #32

He had no right to take away her right to dress how she wants. Zalatix Sep 2012 #34

He does, actually, as he's a cleric. Brickbat Sep 2012 #43

He legally assaulted her, as any good cop will tell you obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #56

You do have to threaten someone for it to be assault. cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #77

Do you understand what Imams can do in places like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Somalia? Ecumenist Sep 2012 #71

Well, Columbo, you're not in Iran. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #40

Around here that's called karma dogday Sep 2012 #41

True. treestar Sep 2012 #60

Revolution? good point. Zalatix Sep 2012 #87

Actually, my bet is the charge would be at minimum equivalent to assaulting a police officer. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #85

Are you joking? IT WAS NONE OF HIS F************ BUSINESS. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #38

How do you define "threaten"? antigone382 Sep 2012 #54

He's part of a religious establishment that's tied into a state that uses goon squads on people. LeftyMom Sep 2012 #62

It interests me that you haven't addressed any responses which point out the implicit threat... antigone382 Sep 2012 #75

If I was President, this is the way I would use Seal Team Six. Schema Thing Sep 2012 #14

I hope she kicked him smartly in hifiguy Sep 2012 #15

Muslim Women need to do this more often. sarcasmo Sep 2012 #17

hell yes eShirl Sep 2012 #45

Seriously. They need to be running secret martial arts groups. Matariki Sep 2012 #46

Not secret... redqueen Sep 2012 #70

Oddly enough, some do -- as Ninjas! obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #72

Yes. They are the only ones that can stop this. nt alphafemale Sep 2012 #78

Covering up is not in the Qua'ran. It is cultural bullshit. Created by man because they get aroused JRLeft Sep 2012 #23

I love it! Good for her rollin74 Sep 2012 #24

I hope her foot had good aim and found a soft cushy spot to do some permanent damage. Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #25

Good for her. I hope he hurts for quite a while. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #27

You go, girl! Jack Rabbit Sep 2012 #33

Sweet!! Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #37

That is GRATIFYING. Go sister! Matariki Sep 2012 #42

He got off pretty easy IMHOP 4_TN_TITANS Sep 2012 #49

She's got moxie! Dorian Gray Sep 2012 #50

I want to buy this woman dinner leftynyc Sep 2012 #51

Good for her!!!!!! Rider3 Sep 2012 #53

�you, cover your eyes,� Best reply ever! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #55

Members of the Mullah-tocracy can hardly whine about a few kicks after all the people... stevenleser Sep 2012 #59

Worst day of his life. Gary 50 Sep 2012 #63

Love, love, love "you, cover your eyes". MadrasT Sep 2012 #67

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2012 #73

Just watched the movie Persepolis last week... WCGreen Sep 2012 #79

Good on her. Alduin Sep 2012 #86

I don't usually applaud violence tavalon Sep 2012 #88