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18. we do have to anticipate the ways republicans will try to disrupt the election to counter them.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jul 2020

your points are correct, donnie himself can't delay, and the house won't agree to a delay:

from article ii, section 1:
"The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States."


however, there are ways the states can mess around because:

also from article ii, section 1:
"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, ...."


this means that, despite the long historical tradition in each state to hold an election to choose the presidential electors, it's not actually a constitutional requirement. a state with a red legislature and a red governor that appears to be going biden's way could, at least in theory, pass a law canceling the presidential election entirely and saying that the governor shall appoint the electors, or a commission consisting only of republicans, or whatever. it likely wouldn't be very unpopular politically, but if they think donnie will be dictator and able to protect them, they could conceivably go for it.


more mundane ways states could screw with the election are by having a red secretary of state refuse to certify the election, and/or by state lawsuits over counting and recounting the votes. this is, of course, how we ended up with shrub despite gore winning the 2000 election by any reasonable accounting.


we do have to be prepared for this kind of crap. i hope biden has a huge staff of lawyers who are experts in election law and understand how to counter such shenanigans....


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Thank you for this REMINDER of the Constitution!!!! Pachamama Jul 2020 #1
It is my pleasure. MineralMan Jul 2020 #3
So what? getagrip_already Jul 2020 #2
The only action required will be to vote on November 3. MineralMan Jul 2020 #4
welp I guess we just give up then sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #5
no, just the opposite... getagrip_already Jul 2020 #8
Yeah, telling everyone how fucked everything in is a great motivator sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #16
and I'm bemused by the don't worry be happy crowd.... getagrip_already Jul 2020 #21
I don't see a lot of don't worry be happy sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #25
What is your plan in case Trump remains president? Kaleva Jul 2020 #23
not going there..... getagrip_already Jul 2020 #24
Okay. Kaleva Jul 2020 #27
I would point to the recent exit of goons from Seattle & PXT Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #17
and that happened because a lot of people yelled up and down about it... getagrip_already Jul 2020 #19
traitortrump the genius and his stupid/helpless staff at work empedocles Jul 2020 #6
+1. We'll still get several daily posts about what happens if elections aren't held, trump doesn't Hoyt Jul 2020 #7
I suppose!! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #14
Barr MAY agree. GeorgeGist Jul 2020 #9
Yep. Thanks for the clarification! SKKY Jul 2020 #10
But, but, but, have you stopped to think what would happen if.... NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #11
Trump is a troll LeftInTX Jul 2020 #12
Thank you!! Yes, can we now please just stop "chattering" about this. Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #13
Since when has the trump administration followed laws? mucifer Jul 2020 #15
we do have to anticipate the ways republicans will try to disrupt the election to counter them. unblock Jul 2020 #18
It is highly unlikely that any state will alter its methods MineralMan Jul 2020 #20
mostly agree.. but... getagrip_already Jul 2020 #22
Colorado, 1876. roamer65 Jul 2020 #28
Yes. Arguably the final battle of the civil war, and the south won. unblock Jul 2020 #29
key point - electors were appointed by the state legislature and not by pop vote getagrip_already Jul 2020 #30
The date is set, but states do not have to hold one. roamer65 Jul 2020 #26
just a point of order..... getagrip_already Jul 2020 #31
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