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35. Two principles at play: 1) Trump is a cheat and 2) GOP tries to hold power by whatever means

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 03:48 PM

Jul 2020

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Trump cheats at golf, on wives, and apparently at businesses with scams like Trump U. He lies or states untrue information habitually--greater than 20000 lies so far according to the Washington Post. Most importantly, he has a deep psychological need to win at any cost. So would he try to cheat at the election? Of course he would.
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The GOP has a recent history of trying to win by any means necessary. Forget Bush V Gore and Florida in 2000. The voter suppression tactics that we agree they have employed to keep hundreds of thousands of not millions of minorities and Democrats from voting is well documented. They clearly believe the integrity of the voting system in America should be tampered with to favor themselves. Would they go along with Trump in his greatest scam of all time? You be the judge.

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Tribe: Trump may be preparing to have red state legislatures declare election results invalid [View all] highplainsdem Jul 2020 OP

This is pure alarmism Wanderlust988 Jul 2020 #1

Trump and Trumpism now own the GOP. All bets are off. Hekate Jul 2020 #4

THIS Initech Jul 2020 #76

Sadly that's not the case unblock Jul 2020 #6

Agree. octoberlib Jul 2020 #7

I have to agree!! Such spin Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #19

The premier constitutional authority in the country thinks this might happen... First Speaker Jul 2020 #24

No one disagrees he knows his constitutional law! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #37

No kidding. Just look at NC's legislature - GOP side. Bunch of malicious sociopaths. n/t CousinIT Jul 2020 #49

Why does Trump deserve the benefit of the doubt? uponit7771 Jul 2020 #40

these are alarming times CatWoman Jul 2020 #41

do not underestimate the lawlessness of don j trump spanone Jul 2020 #43

You mean the Republican legislatures that refused to expand Medicaid Azathoth Jul 2020 #47

You obviously don't know Texas Republican politicians. Dustlawyer Jul 2020 #66

+1 K&R onetexan Jul 2020 #68

Have you been asleep edhopper Jul 2020 #74

Don't we usually lose red states anyway? LOL nt Quixote1818 Jul 2020 #2

At the moment it's looking like Biden will win a few that have red legislatures and governors. unblock Jul 2020 #8

Better check that list again moose65 Jul 2020 #14

Thanks unblock Jul 2020 #22

But MI law states That the SOS certifies the vote and appoints electors Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #63

it will vary state by state unblock Jul 2020 #69

This looks promising, then: moose65 Jul 2020 #75

No we don't normally lose Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and michigan. The votes were triron Jul 2020 #9

Are you suggesting that actual votes were changed? PTWB Jul 2020 #12

it was (nt) stopdiggin Jul 2020 #16

The votes were social media hacked. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #30

Hacking is something specific. PTWB Jul 2020 #31

You'll never change their minds... brooklynite Jul 2020 #38

You might want to read the Wikipedia page on the hacking. Long but informative. delisen Jul 2020 #56

You might want to read the Wikipedia page on the hacking. Long but informative. delisen Jul 2020 #57

Sure, provide a link! PTWB Jul 2020 #70

No just votes suppressed and that was enough uponit7771 Jul 2020 #42

I don't believe it was debunked. FBI was still investigating up until Barr got in. delisen Jul 2020 #50

This would include FL, GA, AZ, OH and others which are in play SoonerPride Jul 2020 #10

I don't know if I understand the hypothetical scheme presented but I looked it up Sugarcoated Jul 2020 #13

NC has a Democratic governor moose65 Jul 2020 #17

Yep, true Sugarcoated Jul 2020 #20

MA (Charlie Baker) would never participate in such a scheme. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #26

Nor would hogan in Maryland Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #39

Well, yeah. But it helps to have someone of Tribe's stature point it out starkly. nt Hekate Jul 2020 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #5

With friends like this, . . . elleng Jul 2020 #11

Trump says some really stupid and outrageous stopdiggin Jul 2020 #15

+1000 Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #27

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst. Vote like your life depends on it. C_U_L8R Jul 2020 #18

You Know, PBO JUst Said At The Funeral Me. Jul 2020 #21

I think it would anger more people into voting against Trump. Doodley Jul 2020 #25

I think you R right! I like Tribe, buy look at his twitter posts. There's some pretty far out stuff Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #28

I'd LIke To Take Credit Me. Jul 2020 #34

Dumb as he is, I think Trump knows full well he has no authority to do this. NYC Liberal Jul 2020 #45

Exactly What "The" President Said Me. Jul 2020 #59

EGGS-ACTLY This! n/t MFGsunny Jul 2020 #73

It is important to run ads to inform people Trump is planning on ignoring the will of the people. Doodley Jul 2020 #23

True Regarding The Margin Me. Jul 2020 #36

Don't think this is realistic Zorro Jul 2020 #29

Yep! Not all of them would be safe from repercussions. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #33

It would be risky for any red Governor to consider that type of action in a swing state. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #32

+1000. Duecy in AZ is good example. Phoenix has a dem mayor, Tucson is no longer red red Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #46

Two principles at play: 1) Trump is a cheat and 2) GOP tries to hold power by whatever means andym Jul 2020 #35

Not enough of them would. As pointed out, Baker in MA, Hogan in MD and others. Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #44

3) They can't win a fair fight. mac56 Jul 2020 #65

Governors would be going directly against a SCOTUS ruling to send electors that did not Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #48

Actually, the ruling says the exact opposite Azathoth Jul 2020 #53

Ummmm Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #55

Unlikely the R legislatures in Mi, Wi, and PA have the votes to override a veto by D governors Kaleva Jul 2020 #51

Exactly! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #52

Well, we could just kick them out of the Union, then, I suppose. nt coti Jul 2020 #54

By posting this you're just playing into their hands. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #58

Thank you!! A voice of sanity Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #60

Thank you. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #67

Malarkey- MI SOS certifies election and appoints electors- legislature has no role. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #61

It's now evident that Putin doesn't believe he'll be able to get Trump re-elected. C Moon Jul 2020 #62

The Bolivian coup government has cancelled elections three times GETPLANING Jul 2020 #64

If Trump or "red states" try any crap like this there will be millions of people in the streets. CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #71

he's already done worse and will continue. With 4 years of treachery, wiggs Jul 2020 #72