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Sympthsical

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15. It's kind of a mess to be honest
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:25 AM
Aug 2020

Some of it is true, some blatantly untrue. It was a compilation with a lot of different sources. Some of the sources are trustworthy, others are incredibly problematic. I went down that rabbit hole once, and there are parts I couldn't make heads or tails of.

The real problem is how the dossier was used in various courts. That's the frayed thread Republicans are pulling on.

The thing is, we don't even need the dossier at this point. We have three years of Trump's record with Russia to condemn him. He's clearly friendly and cooperative with Putin and Russia. That's what gives even the most problematic parts of the dossier the ring of truth. Even if some of the sources are iffy, it certainly sounds as if what they're asserting is at least plausible.

At the end of the day, we're going to use our own lenses. I absolutely think there was some kind of money laundering happening. The financials, Deutsch Bank, the whole mess. There's just far too much smoke there to not be a raging fire.

I'm honestly a bit surprised officials haven't gotten to the meat of it yet. But it seems SDNY is really getting into it. We'll see how long Berman lasts.

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The Steele Dossier turned out to be untrue? [View all] Baitball Blogger Aug 2020 OP
Some parts yes some no underpants Aug 2020 #1
It's not right to say that IMO Mike 03 Aug 2020 #2
That's not my recollection Jarqui Aug 2020 #3
That's my recollection, too!! donkeypoofed Aug 2020 #9
Lawfareblog does a pretty good breakdown of it soothsayer Aug 2020 #12
No, most of it was ... NOT ... untrue that's a bad assessment and feeds winger narrative. uponit7771 Aug 2020 #4
This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #7
The dossier's purpose was not to parse truth C_U_L8R Aug 2020 #5
It wasn't a Dossier. It was a collection of raw data memos, that would OnDoutside Aug 2020 #6
We have a winner.... Boxerfan Aug 2020 #18
By the way, good catch. Mike 03 Aug 2020 #8
I was really surprised how he took an offense position, claiming that they also Baitball Blogger Aug 2020 #11
I've read that most of the dossier, if not all, has proved true... abqtommy Aug 2020 #10
Yep--the only thing that hasn't been shown are the golden shower tapes. panader0 Aug 2020 #14
Lawfareblog has a good review that says things in the SD are true or haven't been disproven soothsayer Aug 2020 #13
lawfare is a very good site NewJeffCT Aug 2020 #16
It's kind of a mess to be honest Sympthsical Aug 2020 #15
The dossier was raw intel data, not facts or even opinion... Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #19
When you get into the Carter Page stuff Sympthsical Aug 2020 #21
No Gothmog Aug 2020 #17
It's true in my mind. It was tame, IMO. Trump is way worse. Baked Potato Aug 2020 #20
Let me say this about the "pee tape" ScratchCat Aug 2020 #22
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