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frazzled

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40. We're comparing her support to Harris's
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:37 PM
Aug 2020

So we have to go back to the primaries

Joe Biden leads with black voters, and Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are making better inroads with younger ones than Kamala Harris and Cory Booker. In interviews, voters rejected the idea that racial representation equated to change.

... In the latest national polls, Senators Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Bernie Sanders of Vermont, the two progressive standard bearers in the Democratic primary, are Mr. Biden’s closest rivals in terms of black support — not Ms. Harris, of California, or Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/politics/2020-election-black-voters.html


Your results from Massachusetts are pretty irrelevant in this discussion. Harris dropped out of the race on December 3, 2019 (A bit more than a week after the above article was published). The Massachusetts primary didn’t take place until March 3, 2020, three months later. And using Massachusetts results as a yardstick for African American support would not be very indicative in the first place: the black population there is only 8.8%, well below the national average.

Warren, for better or worse, has more support from younger, more progressive black voters.

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I don't think she's in the running. calguy Aug 2020 #1
Quit looking for problems where there is none. Botany Aug 2020 #2
Oh, where's the purpose in that? nt Hortensis Aug 2020 #33
No. gratuitous Aug 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Aug 2020 #4
No disagreements save one nit... Moostache Aug 2020 #15
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I would love Warren to be the VP because I want to see a progressive candidate but I think Biden walkingman Aug 2020 #5
what's the voting record of Harris v Warren? qazplm135 Aug 2020 #7
I honestly don't know. DW and I had this conversation yesterday. I suspect that Harris being from walkingman Aug 2020 #10
not just somewhat progressive qazplm135 Aug 2020 #13
Thanks for the info - that makes me feel better. Living in Texas I do not hear much progressive walkingman Aug 2020 #22
Bernie couldn't excite those groups enough to be meaningful in the polls qazplm135 Aug 2020 #24
Your correct!! walkingman Aug 2020 #31
Good question! The random labelling of 'Progressive' is outta hand. Budi Aug 2020 #11
WHy don't these so called progressives ever care about the issues. They always need to be JI7 Aug 2020 #44
Jim Clyburn painted Joe into that corner. not_the_one Aug 2020 #56
No, from what I have seen... demmiblue Aug 2020 #6
💙 BIDEN/HARRIS 2020 Budi Aug 2020 #8
Sounds good to me! ZZenith Aug 2020 #28
Harris would alienate more African Americans than Warren frazzled Aug 2020 #30
Warren is NOT popular among Black Voters. Push that meme all you want. Budi Aug 2020 #32
We're comparing her support to Harris's frazzled Aug 2020 #40
Joe Biden has the Black Vote. Budi Aug 2020 #42
Agree completely frazzled Aug 2020 #50
Ok. Primary then Budi Aug 2020 #45
I wasn't arguing for Warren over Harris, or even Warren at all frazzled Aug 2020 #51
Latest YouGov/Yahoo poll has Harris doing better with Black voters, than Warren. PunkinPi Aug 2020 #47
I think it'd be odd at this point Sympthsical Aug 2020 #9
I agree, reluctantly renate Aug 2020 #16
Well, it's kind of a delicate conversation Sympthsical Aug 2020 #21
I don't think it will be her, much as I would love it. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2020 #12
Yep!!!! Sukee Aug 2020 #14
No. LizBeth Aug 2020 #18
No, AA voters are wonderfully pragmatic Clash City Rocker Aug 2020 #19
My money is on the New Mexico Governor. Blue_true Aug 2020 #39
No. She is respected by a majority of AA and Latin voters blm Aug 2020 #20
Divine "prividence" with a few number of posts Bradshaw3 Aug 2020 #23
"took it on the lam"? oasis Aug 2020 #41
Agreed. Liz isn't even an option, so why throw it out there? not_the_one Aug 2020 #57
Yep and she was my primary candidate Bradshaw3 Aug 2020 #58
I hate to be ageist, but that is an awfully old ticket MiniMe Aug 2020 #25
I honestly believe that the best choice is the current Governor of New Mexico. Blue_true Aug 2020 #38
No. I don't think she'd alienate AA's at all. dixiechiken1 Aug 2020 #26
Interesting the determined denial of her popularity among AA. Hortensis Aug 2020 #53
Warren won't be VP. She'll be excellent in a cabinet position, like Treasury. octoberlib Aug 2020 #27
No - but I don't expect her to be selected nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #29
Not at all Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #34
Don't care. Iggo Aug 2020 #35
I prefer someone else. Blue_true Aug 2020 #36
It will not be her. boston bean Aug 2020 #37
Won't be her, no way. betsuni Aug 2020 #43
I supported Liz. She should not be the VP pick. Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #46
It will alienate me, and I'm not black. nt LexVegas Aug 2020 #48
No. She would alienate anti Trump Republicans that might cross over. Nt helpisontheway Aug 2020 #49
This is the worst reason ever jcgoldie Aug 2020 #52
I think she won't be the nominee at all, so the question is moot. MineralMan Aug 2020 #54
AA voters need rid of Trump treestar Aug 2020 #55
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