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marybourg

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14. No. And "entrapment" means inducing someone

Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:15 PM

Aug 2020

to do something they wouldn’t have done otherwise. So his argument is that a package on a porch is an inducement to someone who wouldn’t have stolen the package if there hadn’t been a package. Not a real compelling argument.

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Is it unethical to use fake Amazon packages as "bait" to combat against "Porch Pirates"? [View all] NurseJackie Aug 2020 OP

What's unethical about it? LisaL Aug 2020 #1

I guess criminals and their lawyers will try ANY angle. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #16

CBS This Morning covered this... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #65

Mark Rober videos are funny. This is the second Porch Pirate Glitter/Stink Bomb video he made. TheBlackAdder Aug 2020 #64

Hell no! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #2

Absolutely not. silverweb Aug 2020 #3

No. It's unethical to be a porch pirate soothsayer Aug 2020 #4

That's a great idea and I'd fill the box with collected dog poop, too. Vinca Aug 2020 #5

There are some videos showing how the thieves look inside to see if it's WORTH stealing. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #17

No Tink41 Aug 2020 #6

Watch out for 'cat lady'. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #61

Hahhahah! Tink41 Aug 2020 #72

Sounds like an argument Alan Dershowitz would make ck4829 Aug 2020 #7

Only if they cause harm Blues Heron Aug 2020 #8

Wouldn't the stealing of the packages be what's unethical? brush Aug 2020 #9

Hell No! FoxNewsSucks Aug 2020 #10

Nopety nope! abqtommy Aug 2020 #11

I suppose any thief would think it's unethical. Throck Aug 2020 #12

Not at all. DonaldsRump Aug 2020 #13

No. And "entrapment" means inducing someone marybourg Aug 2020 #14

"But, Your Honor... if it hadn't been there, I wouldn't have been tempted!" NurseJackie Aug 2020 #18

Yep, that's what it comes down to. Of course -and I didn't read the article, but- marybourg Aug 2020 #19

Criminals will say anything. I saw another "Ring" video where the woman was caught... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #23

Here's the video I was referring to... go to the 3:30 time-mark NurseJackie Aug 2020 #54

As an attorney, that argument doesn't pass the laugh test. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #26

Good lesson, thanks. :) Hortensis Aug 2020 #73

For the most part, funny though it may be, it is unethical and maybe illegal unblock Aug 2020 #15

Those calling it unethical are those nabbed by the police (and their lawyers) NurseJackie Aug 2020 #20

you are wrong in every way in this SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #22

Nonsense - Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #27

I have no problem with the police doing this unblock Aug 2020 #33

The article was specific to police. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #36

Well then I'm off-topic unblock Aug 2020 #41

Whatever. Fwiw, seems like filming thieves at work and Hortensis Aug 2020 #75

no and no qazplm135 Aug 2020 #29

There have been court cases about this unblock Aug 2020 #37

sigh...so as a criminal defense attorney qazplm135 Aug 2020 #40

Ok, how about a slap in the face? unblock Aug 2020 #43

Let's break that down qazplm135 Aug 2020 #52

notwithstanding your tone, we're mostly in agreement unblock Aug 2020 #59

no, we aren't qazplm135 Aug 2020 #60

It's no different than parking your car in your own driveway. yonder Aug 2020 #39

I didn't say it was entrapment unblock Aug 2020 #46

No, you did not - my mistake. yonder Aug 2020 #55

Stay out of *my* packages durablend Aug 2020 #44

The thief is doing something illegal, yes. That part is simple and obvious. unblock Aug 2020 #48

No. I can put a fake package on my porch. It is not illegal. nt gollygee Aug 2020 #47

If the package is intended to cause harm, then no unblock Aug 2020 #49

Glitter and stink bombs are not like an actual bomb. nt gollygee Aug 2020 #51

glitter and stink are not harm qazplm135 Aug 2020 #53

Glitter and stink bombs aren't designed to get your property back unblock Aug 2020 #70

the glitter and the stink ARE your property qazplm135 Aug 2020 #71

of course not. if they chose to come on your property and steal SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #21

I agree. The claim that the GPS device is an invasion of the thief's privacy made me laugh! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #24

Agreed. There's no reasonable expectation of privacy when on someone else's property. unblock Aug 2020 #38

Only if it's unethical to put cheese on a moustrap Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #25

The 'Porch Pirates' deserve a hell of a lot worse to be done to them and deserve no mercy. WyattKansas Aug 2020 #28

Invasion of a thief's privacy? That's hilarious lettucebe Aug 2020 #30

I welcome the porch pirates.... Xolodno Aug 2020 #31

When sellers and vendors use UPS or Fedex exclusively, then it's a hassle to ship to a PO Box... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #34

No mercy. DFW Aug 2020 #32

You've got my vote!! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #35

I recall someone making glitter-bomb packages with little cameras to watch. aikoaiko Aug 2020 #42

Yes, and then they moved up to adding a stink bomb - neither hurt the perpetrators csziggy Aug 2020 #62

Silly question! nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #45

I do not think it is unethical per se, and I have no problem LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #50

Glitter bomb fart spray VS porch Pirates jrandom421 Aug 2020 #56

There's also a "Glitter Bomb 2.0" (New and Improved) NurseJackie Aug 2020 #58

You have the right to place anything you want on your property... brooklynite Aug 2020 #57

Nope. ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #63

Nope. Not at all. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #66

There's one at the grocery store I normally use. Is there a time-limit on how quickly... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #67

Yes, they usually give you a few days - 3 or 4, I think. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #68

Awww poor misunderstood porch pirates. EllieBC Aug 2020 #69

No, porch pirates and thieves are scum. Devil Child Aug 2020 #74

Far from entrapment Polybius Aug 2020 #76