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qazplm135

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60. no, we aren't

Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:31 PM

Aug 2020

If we were, you'd not be making a lot of the arguments that you are making.

And yeah, my tone is watching non-attorneys try and make legal arguments with such definitive I know what I am talking about when you clearly do not.

So dye that gets them messy is ok because it's meant to ID the money (and no it's also meant to ID the robbers) but dye that gets them messy just cause is illegal?

Just say you personally don't like it or wouldn't do it and stick to that, the rest is nonsensical.

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Is it unethical to use fake Amazon packages as "bait" to combat against "Porch Pirates"? [View all] NurseJackie Aug 2020 OP

What's unethical about it? LisaL Aug 2020 #1

I guess criminals and their lawyers will try ANY angle. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #16

CBS This Morning covered this... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #65

Mark Rober videos are funny. This is the second Porch Pirate Glitter/Stink Bomb video he made. TheBlackAdder Aug 2020 #64

Hell no! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #2

Absolutely not. silverweb Aug 2020 #3

No. It's unethical to be a porch pirate soothsayer Aug 2020 #4

That's a great idea and I'd fill the box with collected dog poop, too. Vinca Aug 2020 #5

There are some videos showing how the thieves look inside to see if it's WORTH stealing. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #17

No Tink41 Aug 2020 #6

Watch out for 'cat lady'. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #61

Hahhahah! Tink41 Aug 2020 #72

Sounds like an argument Alan Dershowitz would make ck4829 Aug 2020 #7

Only if they cause harm Blues Heron Aug 2020 #8

Wouldn't the stealing of the packages be what's unethical? brush Aug 2020 #9

Hell No! FoxNewsSucks Aug 2020 #10

Nopety nope! abqtommy Aug 2020 #11

I suppose any thief would think it's unethical. Throck Aug 2020 #12

Not at all. DonaldsRump Aug 2020 #13

No. And "entrapment" means inducing someone marybourg Aug 2020 #14

"But, Your Honor... if it hadn't been there, I wouldn't have been tempted!" NurseJackie Aug 2020 #18

Yep, that's what it comes down to. Of course -and I didn't read the article, but- marybourg Aug 2020 #19

Criminals will say anything. I saw another "Ring" video where the woman was caught... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #23

Here's the video I was referring to... go to the 3:30 time-mark NurseJackie Aug 2020 #54

As an attorney, that argument doesn't pass the laugh test. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #26

Good lesson, thanks. :) Hortensis Aug 2020 #73

For the most part, funny though it may be, it is unethical and maybe illegal unblock Aug 2020 #15

Those calling it unethical are those nabbed by the police (and their lawyers) NurseJackie Aug 2020 #20

you are wrong in every way in this SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #22

Nonsense - Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #27

I have no problem with the police doing this unblock Aug 2020 #33

The article was specific to police. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #36

Well then I'm off-topic unblock Aug 2020 #41

Whatever. Fwiw, seems like filming thieves at work and Hortensis Aug 2020 #75

no and no qazplm135 Aug 2020 #29

There have been court cases about this unblock Aug 2020 #37

sigh...so as a criminal defense attorney qazplm135 Aug 2020 #40

Ok, how about a slap in the face? unblock Aug 2020 #43

Let's break that down qazplm135 Aug 2020 #52

notwithstanding your tone, we're mostly in agreement unblock Aug 2020 #59

no, we aren't qazplm135 Aug 2020 #60

It's no different than parking your car in your own driveway. yonder Aug 2020 #39

I didn't say it was entrapment unblock Aug 2020 #46

No, you did not - my mistake. yonder Aug 2020 #55

Stay out of *my* packages durablend Aug 2020 #44

The thief is doing something illegal, yes. That part is simple and obvious. unblock Aug 2020 #48

No. I can put a fake package on my porch. It is not illegal. nt gollygee Aug 2020 #47

If the package is intended to cause harm, then no unblock Aug 2020 #49

Glitter and stink bombs are not like an actual bomb. nt gollygee Aug 2020 #51

glitter and stink are not harm qazplm135 Aug 2020 #53

Glitter and stink bombs aren't designed to get your property back unblock Aug 2020 #70

the glitter and the stink ARE your property qazplm135 Aug 2020 #71

of course not. if they chose to come on your property and steal SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #21

I agree. The claim that the GPS device is an invasion of the thief's privacy made me laugh! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #24

Agreed. There's no reasonable expectation of privacy when on someone else's property. unblock Aug 2020 #38

Only if it's unethical to put cheese on a moustrap Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #25

The 'Porch Pirates' deserve a hell of a lot worse to be done to them and deserve no mercy. WyattKansas Aug 2020 #28

Invasion of a thief's privacy? That's hilarious lettucebe Aug 2020 #30

I welcome the porch pirates.... Xolodno Aug 2020 #31

When sellers and vendors use UPS or Fedex exclusively, then it's a hassle to ship to a PO Box... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #34

No mercy. DFW Aug 2020 #32

You've got my vote!! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #35

I recall someone making glitter-bomb packages with little cameras to watch. aikoaiko Aug 2020 #42

Yes, and then they moved up to adding a stink bomb - neither hurt the perpetrators csziggy Aug 2020 #62

Silly question! nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #45

I do not think it is unethical per se, and I have no problem LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #50

Glitter bomb fart spray VS porch Pirates jrandom421 Aug 2020 #56

There's also a "Glitter Bomb 2.0" (New and Improved) NurseJackie Aug 2020 #58

You have the right to place anything you want on your property... brooklynite Aug 2020 #57

Nope. ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #63

Nope. Not at all. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #66

There's one at the grocery store I normally use. Is there a time-limit on how quickly... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #67

Yes, they usually give you a few days - 3 or 4, I think. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #68

Awww poor misunderstood porch pirates. EllieBC Aug 2020 #69

No, porch pirates and thieves are scum. Devil Child Aug 2020 #74

Far from entrapment Polybius Aug 2020 #76