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In reply to the discussion: With rump trying to disrupt the USPS, why not do an end run around that scheme? [View all]csziggy
(34,131 posts)26. That is the way the Constitution was written
Clause 2: Method of choosing electors
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
Under the U.S. Constitution the president and vice president are chosen by electors, under a constitutional grant of authority delegated to the legislatures of the several states. The Constitution reserves the choice of the precise manner for creating electors to the will of the state legislatures. It does not define or delimit what process a state legislature may use to create its state college of electors. In practice, the state legislatures have generally chosen to create electors through an indirect popular vote, since the 1820s. Most states have a "winner-take-all" system in which the candidate with the most votes in the state gets all the electoral votes.[6] Maine and Nebraska allow individual congressional districts to elect one elector.
In an indirect popular vote, it is the names of the candidates who are on the ballot to be elected. Most states do not put the names of the electors on the ballot.[6] It is generally understood by the voters and the electors themselves that they are the representative "stand-ins" for the candidates and are expected to cast their electoral college ballots for the president and vice president who appeared on the ballot. The actual electors being voted for are usually selected by the candidate's party. There are a few cases where some electors have refused to vote for the designated candidate. (See "Faithless Elector".) Many states have mandated in law that electors shall cast their electoral college ballot for the designated presidential candidate.[6] The constitutionality of such mandates was established on July 6, 2020 by the SCOTUS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Electoral_College_under_the_Twelfth_Amendment
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
Under the U.S. Constitution the president and vice president are chosen by electors, under a constitutional grant of authority delegated to the legislatures of the several states. The Constitution reserves the choice of the precise manner for creating electors to the will of the state legislatures. It does not define or delimit what process a state legislature may use to create its state college of electors. In practice, the state legislatures have generally chosen to create electors through an indirect popular vote, since the 1820s. Most states have a "winner-take-all" system in which the candidate with the most votes in the state gets all the electoral votes.[6] Maine and Nebraska allow individual congressional districts to elect one elector.
In an indirect popular vote, it is the names of the candidates who are on the ballot to be elected. Most states do not put the names of the electors on the ballot.[6] It is generally understood by the voters and the electors themselves that they are the representative "stand-ins" for the candidates and are expected to cast their electoral college ballots for the president and vice president who appeared on the ballot. The actual electors being voted for are usually selected by the candidate's party. There are a few cases where some electors have refused to vote for the designated candidate. (See "Faithless Elector".) Many states have mandated in law that electors shall cast their electoral college ballot for the designated presidential candidate.[6] The constitutionality of such mandates was established on July 6, 2020 by the SCOTUS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Electoral_College_under_the_Twelfth_Amendment
Unless there is an amendment, the federal government cannot dictate to the states how their electors are selected or how an election for federal office, including the presidency, can be run.
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With rump trying to disrupt the USPS, why not do an end run around that scheme? [View all]
Cirque du So-What
Aug 2020
OP
Yeah, where possible. The USPS holding up outgoing ballots to voters is a real problem though
soothsayer
Aug 2020
#1
My local Supervisor of Elections started sending out recommendations to request
csziggy
Aug 2020
#23
Yes yes yes...thank you..we must keep shouting this to everyone and everywhere
Thekaspervote
Aug 2020
#2
As I understand, provisionals aren't counted when they won't change the outcome
sweetloukillbot
Aug 2020
#9
Fedex and UPS could step up and deliver our votes for free. If they have the patriotic will.
C_U_L8R
Aug 2020
#8
So, the same people that don't live near a post office are supposed to hail a UPS or FEDEX truck?
Blue_true
Aug 2020
#40
each state has its own rules concerning modes of receiving and transmitting mail in ballots
beachbumbob
Aug 2020
#11
That is exactly my plan. In every state where that's legal/possible, we need to do that.
lagomorph777
Aug 2020
#13
People have a choice, stay home and don't vote like Trump want them to, or definitely vote and be
Blue_true
Aug 2020
#41
Look, I will crawl through a minefield to vote against this motherfucker
RhodeIslandOne
Aug 2020
#43
Unfortunately, to bring him to Justice we must remove him from office via the vote first.
Blue_true
Aug 2020
#46
Simple way to avoid their scheme is to wear a mask, and go vote in person. And by the way,
SWBTATTReg
Aug 2020
#18
The thing that I find nauseating is I see people that have talked about being in protests
Blue_true
Aug 2020
#44
Amen! I will eagerly stay up and wait until the results are in enough to finally say 'Biden' is
SWBTATTReg
Aug 2020
#49
I encourage everyone to familiarize themselves with their state laws regarding absentee ballots
Cirque du So-What
Aug 2020
#22
It's in every other thread. If you don't like my post use the tools urself.
SlogginThroughIt
Aug 2020
#33