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ehrnst

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78. "Be more vocal and outraged"

Fri Aug 14, 2020, 08:19 PM

Aug 2020

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How does that do anything other than make you feel more validated?

Congress is not the ACLU, who has one purpose - legal action against those who violate civil rights. Congress does not do that - they investigate (which they have called for) they make recommendations, hold hearings. The are not the criminal justice system. Barr runs the DOJ, so he's not going to indict or find Trump or his cronies guilty of anything, if he even bothers to investigate.

I think your vision of "what is humanly possible" isn't really informed about what Congress can and can't do.

But perhaps you haven't seen these very vocal, and not "too nice" actions on the part of Pelosi and other Democrats

Pelosi: Trump not funding Postal Service is 'undermining the health of our democracy'

Pelosi unveils new nickname for Trump 'Mr. Make Matters Worse'

Warren and other top Democrats ask USPS watchdog to investigate practices

Pelosi Compares Trump's Decision Making To 'A Man Who Refuses To Ask For Directions'

Pelosi Slams Trump on Russia Bounty Reports After Congressional Classified Briefing

Schiff says Trump is making a 'direct attack' on rule of law: 'It's all out in the open'

Pelosi Slams Trump’s Suggestion He Won’t Accept Election Results: ‘He Will Be Leaving’

Democrats call Trump’s coronavirus relief orders “paltry” and “absurdly unconstitutional”

Nancy Pelosi calls Trump's executive actions unconstitutional

Democrats call out Trump for 'fanning' racism

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NV Dems Call Out Trump’s Attack on Social Security

It's also important that other groups than Democrats be the ones to make the charges, so it doesn't all look like partisan politics:

Watchdog group files Hatch Act complaint against Meadows

Why 27 Distinguished DC Lawyers Filed a Complaint with Bar Association Against Attorney General Barr

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Speaker Pelosi needs to unleash the Kraken of the Oversight Committee on this USPS sabotage. NOW! [View all] TeamPooka Aug 2020 OP

I like the sound of that! Blue Owl Aug 2020 #1

i want to see them brought up on riico charges now.. AllaN01Bear Aug 2020 #2

Who specifically, and on what specific charges? I assume you are a lawyer, since ehrnst Aug 2020 #57

So long as Barr is AG, we cannot force federal charges and trump could pardon the criminals Gothmog Aug 2020 #103

How will federal charges happen when Barr is the AG? Gothmog Aug 2020 #102

Well, Speaker Pelosi needs to replace him! Why isn't she in DC doing that instead of ehrnst Aug 2020 #134

RICO! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #3

They need to say it publicly loudly, everywhere or everyone will think they are doing nothing TeamPooka Aug 2020 #7

You think they're doing nothing? ehrnst Aug 2020 #51

Public perceptions define reality. Forget your straw man accusations. My point stands TeamPooka Aug 2020 #62

Just because you have little to no faith in Democratic leaders doesn't mean that ehrnst Aug 2020 #66

This is happening now outside of the Postmaster General's condo. Gothmog Aug 2020 #104

ANTIFA TERRORISTS!!!! LiberalLovinLug Aug 2020 #128

Are you aware that the Convention is next week? Would you like them to cancel it? ehrnst Aug 2020 #138

Subpoenas would be ignored so literally haul... 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2020 #4

It has taken a year and half to get a ruling on McGhan Gothmog Aug 2020 #105

Love your post - lighting a blue candle for the KRACKEN. alittlelark Aug 2020 #5

Get it done! oasis Aug 2020 #6

So tell me about this Kraken, and how Pelosi's been slacking off up til now. ehrnst Aug 2020 #44

Howzabout you direct me to where you read about Pelosi "slacking off". oasis Aug 2020 #60

You implied that she is not "getting it done." ehrnst Aug 2020 #67

I "implied" no such thing. My reply to "release the Kracken" oasis Aug 2020 #77

My apologies. ehrnst Aug 2020 #79

Okay. We're good. oasis Aug 2020 #82

Vacation is cancelled. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #8

And force Moscow Mitch to come waddling back to Washington in shame... WyattKansas Aug 2020 #25

It's not a vacation.....Democrats need to get home at some point to meet ehrnst Aug 2020 #27

Nobody is campaigning in person, not even Biden. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #92

There are other things they do in their district. ehrnst Aug 2020 #96

Nothing as important as stopping fascism. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #119

You still haven't revealed exactly what it is that Pelosi and the Oversight Committee ehrnst Aug 2020 #123

Pelosi is in the House, the House and Senate together make up Congress. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #125

You quoted someone who said the Senate should not go on recess. ehrnst Aug 2020 #126

You better call Nancy! ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #140

See my response to your dupe post: ehrnst Aug 2020 #146

Yeah, they're all just on "vacation," and can't do anything productive outside DC to fight facism ehrnst Aug 2020 #137

Call Nancy and tell her! ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #141

It sounds like you are the one who has the problem with Speaker Pelosi ehrnst Aug 2020 #142

Nope, I knew she would do the right thing. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #143

I said that bashing her for doing this was pointless, and your numerous posts ehrnst Aug 2020 #144

Maybe you missed this post... ehrnst Aug 2020 #149

You're right but for some reason too many democrats are not awake to this. triron Aug 2020 #34

Maybe others are more informed than about what is and isn't going on ehrnst Aug 2020 #124

Um... there is an election in November. Do you think that they are getting manicures and tans? ehrnst Aug 2020 #43

In the middle of the pandemic? Kamala4TheWin Aug 2020 #72

So you think that if they to back to talk to their constituents, that prevents them from ehrnst Aug 2020 #80

Campaigning is all for nil if the votes do not count. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #93

Again... So if they go back to their districts, votes will not count? ehrnst Aug 2020 #95

Hold meeting, shame Mitch into opening back up... ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #120

What does Pelosi have to do with decisions about the Senate recess? ehrnst Aug 2020 #121

I work with someone who wanted Kamala Harris as Speaker of the House lapucelle Aug 2020 #129

Details.... ehrnst Aug 2020 #135

...... ehrnst Aug 2020 #150

Yeah, who needs the Democratic National Convention. We don't need to work on a platform or anything. ehrnst Aug 2020 #139

!!! Yes she does! ananda Aug 2020 #9

Can you specify what that involves, that she hasn't already done? ehrnst Aug 2020 #45

I am curious about this also Gothmog Aug 2020 #106

A lot of armchair quarterbacks who may or may not know ehrnst Aug 2020 #113

I really want to know where in the Constitution, it discusses Krakens Gothmog Aug 2020 #115

I must admit MontanaMama Aug 2020 #10

Yes there is very likely lots going on that we don't know about. ehrnst Aug 2020 #46

Every single House member is up for re-election in November. Laelth Aug 2020 #11

If our folks really want to get re-elected they better get back to DC. TeamPooka Aug 2020 #19

Send Nancy an e-mail. Laelth Aug 2020 #20

Yes, just at the time that they are meeting with their home district constituents in an election ehrnst Aug 2020 #53

What if their constituents want a town hall? Or to meet with them? Or ask them questions? ehrnst Aug 2020 #47

They're not just campaigning StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #130

Agreed. n/t Laelth Aug 2020 #131

It'd help if we unleashed The Kraken on tRUMP, Barr and McConnel too! abqtommy Aug 2020 #12

What Kracken does Congress have that can defeat the Senate, the AG and POTUS? ehrnst Aug 2020 #31

What actions do you think that Speaker Pelosi has the power to undertake that she has not? Gothmog Aug 2020 #107

I'm thinking of The Kraken as a mythical monster not necessarily under the control of Nancy. abqtommy Aug 2020 #117

None of the other lawyers on this board covered krakens in law school Gothmog Aug 2020 #127

The guilty parties would ignore subpoenas DavidDvorkin Aug 2020 #13

Seems that taking care of business in their home districts for at least a few days ehrnst Aug 2020 #50

How is it even possible for some corrupt, mobbed-up thug like Trump to install one of his top sop Aug 2020 #14

The problem is that the justice department bluecollar2 Aug 2020 #16

Well, clearly the answer to this is yes. LisaL Aug 2020 #38

Can you specify what you think can be done about it that isn't? ehrnst Aug 2020 #71

I don't believe that anyone predicted that the POTUS would use their authority to ehrnst Aug 2020 #64

Move on it Nancy! zentrum Aug 2020 #15

Can you specify how she has not been "moving on it?" ehrnst Aug 2020 #54

RELEASE THE KRAKEN! AmyStrange Aug 2020 #17

I missed the discussion of the Kraeken in Con Law in law school Gothmog Aug 2020 #109

It's at the top... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #118

You didn't read the OP, did you? ehrnst Aug 2020 #147

Kick and thank you AmyStrange Aug 2020 #151

So.... ehrnst Aug 2020 #152

yep, fight them fascists like the terrorists they are. nt yaesu Aug 2020 #18

What should they be doing that they have not already done, or are not doing? ehrnst Aug 2020 #61

You've asked that question several times StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #132

It appears to be a case of people not really knowing exactly what Democrats are doing ehrnst Aug 2020 #133

Agreed BigOleDummy Aug 2020 #21

I hope we can do it. warmfeet Aug 2020 #22

You're absolutely right! ElementaryPenguin Aug 2020 #23

How does she do that when Congress is in recess? pnwmom Aug 2020 #24

She has a phone and a computer, yes? ehrnst Aug 2020 #30

She and the Oversight Committee are in recess. I've never heard of committee hearings taking place pnwmom Aug 2020 #36

It's not like there is an emergency or anything... LisaL Aug 2020 #37

So what is the procedure? Have you heard of one? n/t pnwmom Aug 2020 #48

I have never heard that a recess before an election year for Congress is a 'vacation.' ehrnst Aug 2020 #39

On the bright side, this is so transparently corrupt it's BLOWING UP on the GOP bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #26

Agreed Gothmog Aug 2020 #108

The Pooka Plan. safeinOhio Aug 2020 #28

Hello... Liz Warren is demanding an investigation... If it can be done, Pelosi is doing it. ehrnst Aug 2020 #29

Our Senators and Reps bdamomma Aug 2020 #32

So, what exactly can they do this week to "stop the dismantling of the USPS" other than ehrnst Aug 2020 #41

well different bdamomma Aug 2020 #69

OK, so that clarifies some things. ehrnst Aug 2020 #75

Too late, they're on break. Come back in a month. nt Hotler Aug 2020 #33

Oh right, they're not up for re-election in November and certainly don't need to hold town halls ehrnst Aug 2020 #42

For clarification the Committee can meet bottomofthehill Aug 2020 #58

OMG - you mean all the ranting about Democratic "inaction" is based on nothing? ehrnst Aug 2020 #59

That's correct!!! Democrats need to get more aggressive! Illumination Aug 2020 #35

Can you specify what that entails? ehrnst Aug 2020 #40

Hi ehrnst! To answer you question: Take as much action against Trump as is humanly possible. Illumination Aug 2020 #76

"Be more vocal and outraged" ehrnst Aug 2020 #78

Well you certainly set me straight ehrnst! Might take awhile, but I'll look @ all the links! Illumination Aug 2020 #83

I do keep up. I get frustrated when others say that Dems have not said or done anything. ehrnst Aug 2020 #85

Keep up? Wow ehrnst! You're extremely knowledgeable & DU is fortunate to have you on their Illumination Aug 2020 #86

Thank you. ehrnst Aug 2020 #145

Marc Elias and the Democratic party have over 30 lawsuits pending Gothmog Aug 2020 #110

Well, I guess you told Speaker Pelosi. how could she ever cope with the job without ehrnst Aug 2020 #49

Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #63

You're welcome. ehrnst Aug 2020 #65

They are acting like there is nothing they can do.Talking helpisontheway Aug 2020 #52

Can you specify what they can do that they say they cannot do? ehrnst Aug 2020 #55

You have the patience of a saint. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #68

Just a dogged pursual of critical thought, and a resistance to pointless circular firing squads. ehrnst Aug 2020 #73

I agree Gothmog Aug 2020 #111

I miss the discussion of the Kraken in Constitutional Law-where is this in the constitution? Gothmog Aug 2020 #112

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Immediately! What the hell are they doing on break? Kamala4TheWin Aug 2020 #70

Um... that's when they go back to their districts and connect with their constituents ehrnst Aug 2020 #74

I've never seen my congresswoman Kamala4TheWin Aug 2020 #156

Some people have different experiences with their rep. ehrnst Aug 2020 #157

Just used the ignore button and it's really cleaned up the thread for me. Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #81

Did it work for the OP? ehrnst Aug 2020 #84

Another "Why don't Democrats stop blah blah blah" post. betsuni Aug 2020 #87

And you clicked on it, bless your heart. crickets Aug 2020 #88

What's that supposed to mean? betsuni Aug 2020 #89

And ... crickets. betsuni Aug 2020 #90

.... ehrnst Aug 2020 #100

Yep... despite the fact that yes, the Kracken was released in July... ehrnst Aug 2020 #98

We can scream and shout from the mountaintops all we want Squidly Aug 2020 #91

Pelosi and Schumer met face to face w/Dejoy bigtree Aug 2020 #94

I guess you missed all this? ehrnst Aug 2020 #97

Thank you. It's always annoying... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #99

It has taken over a year to get a ruling on McGhan Gothmog Aug 2020 #101

This morning JustAnotherGen Aug 2020 #114

Where are krakens discussed in the US Constitution? Gothmog Aug 2020 #116

Apparently Pelosi has one, and is refusing to release it ehrnst Aug 2020 #122

WHY NOT??!!! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW!!! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #136

.... ehrnst Aug 2020 #148

From Speaker Pelosi and Senator Schumer Gothmog Aug 2020 #153

From the Oversight Committee Gothmog Aug 2020 #154

@SpeakerPelosi is calling the House back into session to vote on @USPS legislation -- Gothmog Aug 2020 #155