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Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:11 PM

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Robert Reich: The dysfunction today is that Republicans can't govern and Democrats can't fight. [View all] kpete Aug 2020 OP

It's hard to fight effectively when both arms and a leg have been cut off, but yet we still fight. ehrnst Aug 2020 #1

He hits the nail on the head. Greybnk48 Aug 2020 #2

What specifically do you think we should do differently to fight more like the GOP? ehrnst Aug 2020 #8

How About This? ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #12

So yelling more at debates, or violating protocol during speeches more. ehrnst Aug 2020 #13

Unbrilliant! ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #39

This was your post, yes? ehrnst Aug 2020 #42

Hire marketing specialists, brilliant strategists... DSandra Aug 2020 #16

I don't think you're going to find anyone more brilliant than Pelosi. ehrnst Aug 2020 #33

Yes, marketing and messaging specialists are exactly what we need to make our points cut through JudyM Aug 2020 #48

Which ones would you recommend to replace the ones that are being used? ehrnst Aug 2020 #51

Let us know who they're using now. JudyM Aug 2020 #55

I never claimed to know. But apparently some here have evaluated them, and believe they ehrnst Aug 2020 #70

Do you really think the DNC doesn't have marketing specialists and strategists? mcar Aug 2020 #86

That's not the point... ehrnst Aug 2020 #99

Oh dopey me mcar Aug 2020 #100

Unlike theirs, and therein lies the problem. ananda Aug 2020 #29

What does that mean? Who is the pronoun "theirs" referring to? ehrnst Aug 2020 #34

Like Reich helped Democrats fight trump leading up to 2016 election by criticizing Clinton and Hoyt Aug 2020 #3

Thank you for reminding us. ehrnst Aug 2020 #7

Yes, he was wrong. betsuni Aug 2020 #72

Oh yeah mcar Aug 2020 #87

Anti Democratic Party BS Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #4

And Robert Reich is the answer? I don't view him necessarily as a spokesperson who is aggressive SWBTATTReg Aug 2020 #5

That is nuts. What are we supposed to do that is legal? LakeArenal Aug 2020 #6

We either learn to fight or we lose our country to the nutbags DSandra Aug 2020 #17

You still haven't said what it is Democrats aren't doing that they could be... ehrnst Aug 2020 #26

Thanks. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #30

Thanks. LakeArenal Aug 2020 #32

Crickets.... ehrnst Aug 2020 #35

Some of us have to work for a living... DSandra Aug 2020 #94

You're back and...still crickets. ehrnst Aug 2020 #101

I think Biden ought to name some of his cabinet officials and start running a shadow government. OrlandoDem2 Aug 2020 #9

Please make it stop . . Iliyah Aug 2020 #10

And what about Carter, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, and then Hillary? DSandra Aug 2020 #18

um... Gore and HRC won... and it was stolen from them. ehrnst Aug 2020 #31

I'm not supposed to be the strategic genius... DSandra Aug 2020 #56

But you claim enough genius to know that they have other specific options in strategy that would ehrnst Aug 2020 #62

You seem to think you're genius enough to tell them what to do StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #73

Well said... because someone claims absolute moral authority to bash Democratic leaders ehrnst Aug 2020 #81

I find Reich's arguments flawed. delisen Aug 2020 #11

Yes, and any midterm that follows one party taking House, Senate and WH ehrnst Aug 2020 #14

+1 betsuni Aug 2020 #76

Safe assumption for anything Reich says DrToast Aug 2020 #36

Democrats need to learn how to fight DSandra Aug 2020 #15

You don't think Pelosi and Warren fight with Passion? Where have you been? ehrnst Aug 2020 #19

Not enough of us do DSandra Aug 2020 #21

In what way specifically? That's very vague. ehrnst Aug 2020 #24

Where's that moving goalposts GIF? mcar Aug 2020 #88

Ah yes, here it is: ehrnst Aug 2020 #91

... mcar Aug 2020 #93

"Stuff that Hillary did poorly in 2016"??? She won the damned election. What did she do "poorly"? George II Aug 2020 #27

Against many odds, specifically the statistical improbability of a party holiding the WH for more ehrnst Aug 2020 #53

So you have nothing but vague trashing of Dems - no actual specifics? ehrnst Aug 2020 #44

Show me a modern day Democrat that is as smart as FDR, Truman, Kennedy... DSandra Aug 2020 #45

So, no, you don't have any specifics - just bashing Dems as "not very smart." ehrnst Aug 2020 #46

"Get out of my way, I only talk to geniuses" DSandra Aug 2020 #54

Are you confusing me with someone else you're arguing with? ehrnst Aug 2020 #63

Make Democrats Great Again betsuni Aug 2020 #77

Pretty much... ehrnst Aug 2020 #78

Also remember, we are not just in a fight with Trump, but with Putin as well DSandra Aug 2020 #20

So, what does "fighting" consist of specifically - what are "we" not doing now ehrnst Aug 2020 #22

No specifics? Just complaining that Democrats "just can't do anything right... ehrnst Aug 2020 #38

Do you like groupthink? DSandra Aug 2020 #41

So a red herring fallacy in place of any answer... ehrnst Aug 2020 #47

Wanting everyone to think like you and not dissent is groupthink DSandra Aug 2020 #95

Look in a mirror... ehrnst Aug 2020 #98

BTW, I am a stakeholder in the Democratic Party DSandra Aug 2020 #43

No one said you don't have a right to complain. You just can't or won't articulate ehrnst Aug 2020 #49

The Dems don't put enough passion into helping its constituents DSandra Aug 2020 #96

Lots of general bashing, but no real examples of what you actually want to see. ehrnst Aug 2020 #97

Dems are "them?" ehrnst Aug 2020 #102

"Pelosi to Recall House for Postal Service Vote as Democrats Press for DeJoy to Testify" ehrnst Aug 2020 #92

Democrats can't fight? ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #23

It's from Robert Reich, who has had a problem with Democrats since he left the Clinton Admin. George II Aug 2020 #28

Robert Reich who defended his part in NAFTA as something "not really that bad." ehrnst Aug 2020 #37

Yeah I usually ignore him ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #40

+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #25

More "Dems are weak" blah blah from Reich mcar Aug 2020 #50

Because we are so perfect, aren't we? DSandra Aug 2020 #52

Nice strawman mcar Aug 2020 #57

Well quite a few people here are eager to shut up dissent... DSandra Aug 2020 #58

Dissent? ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #59

What are you talking about? mcar Aug 2020 #60

I have yet to get a coherent response to what is being dissented... ehrnst Aug 2020 #65

Oh yeah mcar Aug 2020 #85

What Reich had to say wasn't "dissent". George II Aug 2020 #61

No, they're just asking those who are flaming Democratic leaders for being dim, cowardly and ehrnst Aug 2020 #64

Strawman and a Nirvana Fallacy - Twofer! ehrnst Aug 2020 #66

Um what? BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #67

...... ehrnst Aug 2020 #69

Methinks BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #74

Yeah.... ehrnst Aug 2020 #79

You too! BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #82

Uh huh mcar Aug 2020 #89

Hey you! BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #90

Also... False Dichotomy... ehrnst Aug 2020 #68

So sick of this StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #71

what he means is fight dirty Skittles Aug 2020 #75

Specifically - what is it that Democrats are supposed to do to "fight dirty?" ehrnst Aug 2020 #80

see that's the thing Skittles Aug 2020 #83

Yep. Always easy to tear down, but ideas on what the alternatives are ehrnst Aug 2020 #84